jmdict
1004620
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2208965)
<entry id="2208965" stat="D" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1004620</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>今日わ</keb>
<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>こんにちわ</reb>
<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>∫</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1289400">今日は</xref>
<misc>&col;</misc>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<s_inf>daytime greeting; phonetic spelling of こんにちは</s_inf>
<gloss>hello</gloss>
<gloss>good day</gloss>
<gloss>good afternoon</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2010-12-15 03:00:44" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>making it the same as the こんばんわ entry. that could probably be expressed
more succinctly with a [col] tag if it's really needed</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,1 +19,1 @@
-<s_inf>misspelling of こんにちは. こんにちわ is often used colloquially</s_inf>
+<s_inf>misspelling of こんにちは</s_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-12-21 23:00:34" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I'll try the "col".</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,0 +19,1 @@
+<misc>&col;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-02-16 02:17:42" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>does this really need to be a separate entry? we have lots of
entries where ik's are included. they could be [ik] and
[nokanji]-marked.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-02-17 03:31:43" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Years ago, after some discussion, we isolated a few common misspellings into their own entries to highlight them as such. There is a bit of a trap in putting こんにちわ, etc. into the regular こんにちは entry, as it may obscure the fact that it's an error, and certainly makes for a messy entry.
We have 5 of these specials: こんにちわ, こんばんわ, ありがと, ろにん and ロマンジ (perhaps 願わくわ counts too.) I think they are all best kept separate and cross-referenced.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-04-28 19:36:44" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I still think this entry is a little problematic. こにちわ and こにちは are typos foreigners might be prone to make while こんにちわ is
(most of the time) a stylistic choice used by native speakers all the time. I think this entry should be deleted and the こんにちわ
reading alone added to the こんにちは entry with an [ik] tag, just like ほんと is currently in the 本当/ほんとう entry.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>こにちわ 4858
こにちは 6111
こんにちわ 2951760</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-04-29 01:19:04" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Quite happy to move こんにちわ off to another entry, but give the n-gram count for 今日わ, it probably should be its own entry.
I think こにちわ/こにちは should stay, if only to help gaijin.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>今日わ 101049
こんにちわ 2951760</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-05-01 06:37:21" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I didn't really consider the kanji. こんに
ちわ should probably be kept separate from
こんにちは then. I'm not at all convinced
the other two readings are helpful even to
"gaijin", though. With the removal of the
ろにん, ロマンジ, etc. entries, this one's
now the odd one out. As a user, I wouldn't
expect any Japanese headword to be a typo
not actually common among native speakers
themselves.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -20 +20 @@
-<s_inf>misspelling of こんにちは</s_inf>
+<s_inf>daytime greeting; phonetic spelling of こんにちは</s_inf>
@@ -22 +22 @@
-<gloss>good day (daytime greeting)</gloss>
+<gloss>good day</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-05-01 06:40:43" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>spec1 based on the ngrams. I suggest we
remove the other two readings and the ik
tag and just satisfy ourselves marking it
col.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -6,0 +7 @@
+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-05-02 22:58:40" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I would guess that 99% of instances of こにちわ and こにちは are typos. I agree that they should be dropped.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-05-04 02:10:20" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>OK. I yield on those. People looking them up can sort it out for themselves.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -3,0 +4,4 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>今日わ</keb>
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
+</k_ele>
@@ -6 +9,0 @@
-<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
@@ -8,8 +10,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>こにちわ</reb>
-<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>こにちは</reb>
-<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
@@ -20,0 +16 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-05-04 09:22:59" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Aligning</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,0 +20 @@
+<gloss>good afternoon</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-18 10:48:00" stat="D" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think this is ever actually written as 今日わ (outside of Nikk) and that the high ngrams number is just from misparsing. I suggest merging this with こんにちは (as nokanji). 今日わ could also be added to that entry as a sK.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>今日わ 101049
今日われ 10624
今日わかっ 10126
今日われ生き 9682
今日われ生きて 9681
今日われ生きてあり 9676
今日わかった 9395
今日わたし 7486
今日わかったこと 3676
今日わかり 2945
今日われわれ 2905</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-18 21:53:06" stat="D">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Fine.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>