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<entry id="2208258" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2846850</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>不磨の大典</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ふまのたいてん</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="2100080">大日本帝国憲法</xref>
<misc>&poet;</misc>
<gloss>immutable law (esp. the Meiji constitution)</gloss>
<gloss>indestructible canon</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2020-09-30 02:52:31" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>dine</upd_name>
<upd_detl>English translation from https://www.ndl.go.jp/constitution/e/etc/c02.html</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijr, daijs, nikk: https://kotobank.jp/word/%E4%B8%8D%E7%A3%A8%E3%81%AE%E5%A4%A7%E5%85%B8-673371
wikipedia: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%8D%E7%A3%A8%E3%81%AE%E5%A4%A7%E5%85%B8
不磨の大典	2764</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-09-30 07:15:49" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>A bit simpler</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Daijr, GG5</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -13 +12,0 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="2100080"&gt;大日本帝国憲法&lt;/xref&gt;
@@ -15 +14,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;immutable fundamental law (usu. the Constitution of the Empire of Japan)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;immutable fundamental law (used in the Meiji constitution)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;indestructible canon&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-10-01 00:06:11" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Better as a note? (not sure)</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -14 +14,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;immutable fundamental law (used in the Meiji constitution)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;used in the Meiji constitution&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;immutable fundamental law&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-10-01 03:44:39" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Probably. I'm not sure it's the only context.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-10-01 23:53:02" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Probably not needed at all, really? If that's where people are most likely to come across it, there's no need to point that out.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -14 +13,0 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;used in the Meiji constitution&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-10-02 02:15:26" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>dine</upd_name>
<upd_detl>the reference to the Meiji constitution is essential, otherwise the entry would be sum of parts and not needed</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>koj, daijs, nikk: 大日本帝国憲法の美称</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-10-02 03:45:21" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>looking at daij &amp; nikk, they say this is a euphemism FOR the constitution, not that it's used IN the constitution.
daijr alone has a literal sense: 2 長い間改定されていない、重要な法律や規則。</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="2100080"&gt;大日本帝国憲法&lt;/xref&gt;
@@ -14,2 +15,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;immutable fundamental law&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;indestructible canon&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;Meiji constitution&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;immutable law&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-10-02 11:15:55" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Yes, it refers to the constitution itself. But having "Meiji constitution" as a gloss is not in line with our usual style (see 百獣の王, 百薬の長, ほの字).
I don't think it necessarily has to refer to the Meiji constitution, hence the "usu."</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,2 +15,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;Meiji constitution&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;immutable law&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;immutable law (usu. the Meiji constitution)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;indestructible canon&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-10-02 11:30:19" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>OK</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-10 20:27:34" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_diff>@@ -15 +15 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;immutable law (usu. the Meiji constitution)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;immutable law (esp. the Meiji constitution)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-11 00:38:12" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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