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jmdict 2748470 Active (id: 2207820)
<entry id="2207820" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2748470</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>893</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>八九三</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>やくざ</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1012760">ヤクザ・1</xref>
<misc>&col;</misc>
<gloss>yakuza</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2012-10-01 03:33:45" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus</upd_name>
<upd_refs>http://d.hatena.ne.jp/keyword/893
http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/893
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%A4%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B6
"893に" 482k</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-10-03 05:25:57" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,1 +12,1 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1012760"&gt;ヤクザ&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1012760"&gt;ヤクザ・1&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-09-04 06:10:12" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;八九三&lt;/keb&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-09-04 06:18:47" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Back in 2006 the comment "《poss. from 八九三》" was added to the main ヤクザ entry. As was noted at the time, 八九三 is just one of the possible sources of the term.
I don't think it's appropriate to add it to this colloquial version, especially since the submission has no references or case for the addition.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -6,3 +5,0 @@
-&lt;/k_ele&gt;
-&lt;k_ele&gt;
-&lt;keb&gt;八九三&lt;/keb&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-05-20 00:53:17" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>nipp's yakuza entry says "八九三とも書く"
I think this should prob be merged with ヤクザ</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-05-21 01:06:39" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I wouldn't have 八九三 or 893 as headwords in the main ヤクザ entry. I think the status quo is appropriate.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-05-21 01:15:57" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>With [rK,ateji] tags, what would be the harm?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-05-21 23:14:19" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>八九三 is assumed to be the etymology; I don't think it can be described as ateji. "893" isn't kanji so it can't be ateji. I think it's best to keep 893 as a separate entry.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-05-22 08:10:21" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Agree</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-07 21:36:26" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>nikk</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6,4 @@
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;八九三&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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