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<k_ele>
<keb>鍋つかみ</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>鍋掴み</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>鍋摑み</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>なべつかみ</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>pot holder</gloss>
<gloss>oven glove</gloss>
<gloss>oven mitt</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2009-02-17 00:00:00" stat="A">
<upd_detl>Entry created</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-02-15 11:41:05" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>BrE: oven glove
AmE: oven mitt
I think "pot holder" usually has a space.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oven%20mitt
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pot%20holder</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15 +15 @@
-<gloss>potholder</gloss>
+<gloss>pot holder</gloss>
@@ -16,0 +17 @@
+<gloss>oven mitt</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-02-15 21:20:47" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Marginally</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>pot holder 52036
potholder 41086</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-03 03:34:31" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 鍋つかみ │ 74,238 │ 82.5% │
│ 鍋掴み │ 1,709 │ 1.9% │ 🡠 rK (daijs, koj, gg5)
│ 鍋摑み │ 0 │ 0.0% │ 🡠 adding (摑 is jinmeiyō)
│ なべつかみ │ 14,045 │ 15.6% │
╰─ーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -8,0 +9,5 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>鍋摑み</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-03 05:44:45" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I'm not seeing the point of adding
鍋摑み │ 0 │ 0.0%
as an sK. Who's going to be searching for a surface form not actually used anywhere?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-03 05:53:51" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>A twitter search shows real usages of 鍋摑み.
「摑み」 is how 「掴み」 is written in newer editions of meikyo.
Regardless, I don't think jinmeiyō forms like this need additional justification to be added as [sK]. We can't assume that they're not actually used anywhere.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-03 09:24:30" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Wikipedia has 他にも「鍋掴み」「鍋摑み」なども用いられる....</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>