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jmdict 2011660 Active (id: 2207303)
<entry id="2207303" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2011660</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>水の泡</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>水のあわ</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>みずのあわ</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>bubble on the surface of water</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&id;</misc>
<s_inf>oft. as 〜になる</s_inf>
<gloss>(coming to) nothing</gloss>
<gloss>naught</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&id;</misc>
<gloss>something short-lived</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2011-03-26 00:56:13" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,1 +12,1 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1372070"&gt;水泡&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1372070"&gt;水泡・2&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-07-02 14:43:14" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Added senses.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijr/s, koj</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -14,0 +16,10 @@
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;exp;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;bubble on the surface of water&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;exp;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;something that is short-lived&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-07-10 02:38:05" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-02-23 00:29:23" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_diff>@@ -13,0 +14 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;id;&lt;/misc&gt;
@@ -23,0 +25 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;id;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-02-23 01:40:05" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-08-17 15:54:45" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_refs>and so castles made of sand
fall in the sea
eventually</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -26,0 +27 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;castle made of sand&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-08-27 23:17:19" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Not a useful gloss, IMO.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -27 +26,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;castle made of sand&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-08-28 18:32:21" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>The kokugos have the senses in this order, which I think is better.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daij, meikyo
水の泡	69402	99.1%
水のあわ	646	0.9%</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6,4 @@
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;水のあわ&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -13,7 +16,0 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1372070"&gt;水泡・2&lt;/xref&gt;
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;id;&lt;/misc&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;coming to nothing&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;/sense&gt;
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;exp;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -20,0 +18,2 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;foam&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;froth&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -26 +25,9 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;something that is short-lived&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;something short-lived&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;exp;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;id;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;oft. as 〜になる&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;(coming to) nothing&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;naught&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-08-28 23:31:02" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>However the JEs only have the "(coming to) nothing" sense, and all 7 example sentences are for that sense. Can it be moved to the front? I can reindex, but I think modern usage should take prerence.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-08-29 23:59:50" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Presumably the JEs don't have sense 1 because it's obvious. We tend to lead with the literal meaning unless it's obscure or archaic. Image results for 水の泡 are mostly bubbles.
On second thought, probably didn't need to add "foam" or "froth".</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -18,2 +17,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;foam&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;froth&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-09-02 09:33:47" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Fair enough about the JEs, which cover it in their みず entries. Given they and the Tanaka sentences aim for the "coming to nothing" sense, I think it should be second. I'll move it up and index the sentences accordingly.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -23 +23,3 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;something short-lived&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;oft. as 〜になる&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;(coming to) nothing&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;naught&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -29,3 +31 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;oft. as 〜になる&lt;/s_inf&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;(coming to) nothing&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;naught&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;something short-lived&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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