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<entry id="2204803" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1011300</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>凹たれる</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>凹垂れる</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>へこたれる</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&v1;</pos>
<pos>&vi;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>to lose heart</gloss>
<gloss>to be discouraged</gloss>
<gloss>to be dejected</gloss>
<gloss>to be exhausted</gloss>
<gloss>to be tired out</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2012-12-20 02:51:22" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>winnie</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>In looking up this word online, I ran across a kanji version as well: 凹たれる or 凹垂れる. The former gets 17.5k hits on google, the latter only 129. I don't know if it's an "official" usage of kanji for the word -- I didn't find it in any online dictionaries -- so I've not added it to the entry, but I thought I would suggest it if you would like to add it.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-12-20 03:34:18" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>prog, gg5, nc</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -11,0 +11,3 @@
+<gloss>to be discouraged</gloss>
+<gloss>to be exhausted</gloss>
+<gloss>to be tired out</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-12-20 09:08:37" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>凹たれる is worth a mention.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,0 +10,1 @@
+<s_inf>occ. written 凹たれる</s_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-04-21 03:38:33" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>1,070 hits on google for 凹たれる, and the top hits lead back to
JMdict. Do we want to keep this note? Maybe move it to the kanji
field and tag [rK]?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Google N-gram Corpus Counts
17,778 95.1% へこたれる
886 4.7% ヘコたれる
29 0.2% 凹たれる
None - 凹垂れる</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10 +9,0 @@
-<s_inf>occ. written 凹たれる</s_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-04-22 14:59:23" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think it's needed. The refs don't have it, and our usual policy is to ignore obscure irregular forms.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>gg5
へこたれ 135591
凹たれ 352
凹垂れ 28</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<gloss>to be dejected</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-07-29 05:18:39" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>HiddenForm 凹たれる;凹垂れる</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-07-29 05:24:57" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-08-16 05:07:21" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I'm approving this, and then reopening. I want to look at the downstream handling in wwwjdic as it's the only entry where all the kanji forms are tagged "sK".</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -3,0 +4,8 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>凹たれる</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>凹垂れる</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-08-16 05:07:34" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-08-17 04:41:42" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Looks a bit odd, but works.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-08-18 18:06:25" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Opencooper</upd_name>
<upd_detl>Maybe should still be tagged [uk] for the downstream users who haven't yet/won't implement hiding of the search forms but still update the dictionary data? See for example Jisho currently: https://jisho.org/search/%E3%81%B8%E3%81%93%E3%81%9F%E3%82%8C%E3%82%8B. Otherwise, it makes the kanji seem common, negating the intent of the new tags.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-08-18 18:58:09" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Jim, have you had any correspondence with jisho.org regarding support for sk/sK forms? It concerns me that the most popular JMdict dictionary website is currently showing them as though they're regular forms.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-08-18 22:56:19" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I did consider adding uk. Probably fine.
Robin: I'll reply to you by email.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>