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<k_ele>
<keb>開けたて</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>開け閉て</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>あけたて</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&vs;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>opening and shutting</gloss>
<gloss>opening and closing</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2013-10-23 23:39:52" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>Ngrams, 新和英中辞典, ルミナス (both use 開けたて in examples, ルミナス has it as the headword.)</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -4,0 +4,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>開けたて</keb>
+</k_ele></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-10-24 02:33:33" stat="A">
<upd_uid>pupchurch</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Paul Upchurch</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-08-17 09:01:44" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Alan Cheng</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>開けたて 12976
開け閉め 168883
I feel like the xref should be the other way around.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>開けたて 12976
開けたての 5860
開けたてする 66
開けたてし 35</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15 +15,2 @@
-<pos>&vs;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="2115660">開け閉め・あけしめ</xref></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-08-17 09:05:50" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Alan Cheng</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Actually there's a する example in my dictionary and it's in the kokugos, so I'm putting [vs]
back.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +16 @@
+<pos>&vs;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-08-17 20:27:33" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-07-19 20:44:07" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>[vt]: shinmeikai, oukoku, meikyo (開け閉て)
Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 開けたて │ 12,976 │ 89.3% │
│ 開け閉て │ 556 │ 3.8% │
│ あけたて │ 1,006 │ 6.9% │
╰─ーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -16,0 +17 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-07-19 22:20:18" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-07-20 01:35:45" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't understand what the adjective in English would be. "opened and shut"?</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -15 +14,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-07-20 04:12:06" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Nearly half the n-grams have の but they seem to be for things that have been opened and closed, such as wine bottles.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>開けたての 5827
開けたてのワイン 2370</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-07-20 13:23:41" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>The 開けたて in "開けたてのワイン" is "開け立て" (i.e. "just opened").</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>gg5</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -17 +17 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2115660">開け閉め・あけしめ</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2115660">開け閉め</xref>
@@ -18,0 +19 @@
+<gloss>opening and closing</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-08-03 09:51:34" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I'll suggest that as an entry.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>