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<entry id="2191233" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
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<r_ele>
<reb>ドライビング</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>driving (a vehicle)</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<field>&golf;</field>
<gloss>driving</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
<gloss>driving (force, etc.)</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2012-06-25 10:47:45" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>GG5, etc.</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-06-25 18:58:48" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-14 16:19:27" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think these are sufficiently different that they can be separate senses.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -9 +9,5 @@
-<gloss>driving (vehicle, golf)</gloss>
+<gloss>driving (vehicle)</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>driving (golf)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-14 18:39:27" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>daijs has
1 自動車を運転すること。「ドライビングテクニック」
2 推進すること。「ドライビングフォース(=推進力)」
google images are 100% car driving</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -14,0 +15,5 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>driving (force, etc.)</gloss>
+</sense></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-14 22:20:10" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think it's [adj-no]. Possibly [adj-f] but [n] is probably fine.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -16 +15,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-14 22:37:41" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I agree, but for better or worse, in the past we've used
adj-no in cases like these (and considered the の left out
in ドライビングフォース). The problem is that "driving
(force)" doesn't make sense as a noun gloss.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-14 22:38:36" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Maybe n-pref would be better?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-15 04:39:30" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>The problem is we don't have a suitable *Japanese* POS for it. In this case "driving" is sometimes called a gerundive, not that English really has them. I'd prefer "adj-f". I know driving per se is not a verb, but it is derived from one.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -16 +16 @@
-<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-f;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-15 21:40:09" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think the gloss has to match the PoS tag in all cases. It only makes sense to have an adjective gloss for 国際 (a noun), for instance.
I'm fine with [adj-f] here though.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-15 22:12:50" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>The 国際 entry is also tagged as an adj-no, and it's
worth noting that Kenkyusha's dictionaries (prog, gg5,
chujiten) all avoid giving any actual translation of the
word outside its use in compounds/as 国際的 etc.
I think an important point is that if ドライビング③ can
only ever be used with that meaning in a compound such
as ドライビングフォース, is it really a noun by itself?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-17 10:45:11" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -9 +9 @@
-<gloss>driving (vehicle)</gloss>
+<gloss>driving (a vehicle)</gloss>
@@ -13 +13,2 @@
-<gloss>driving (golf)</gloss>
+<field>&golf;</field>
+<gloss>driving</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>