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<entry id="2190070" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1132570</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>米</keb>
<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>米突</keb>
<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>メートル</reb>
<re_pri>gai1</re_pri>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<lsource xml:lang="fre">mètre</lsource>
<gloss>metre (unit of length)</gloss>
<gloss>meter</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1132530">メーター・1</xref>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<s_inf>usu. メーター</s_inf>
<gloss>meter</gloss>
<gloss>gauge</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2012-03-31 09:21:10" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus</upd_name>
<upd_refs>Might it make sense to add ㍍ somewhere in this entry?</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-04-06 07:59:33" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Maybe one day. Not sure where - it's not kanji, and not a reading...... Anyway for now I want to duck.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -24,1 +24,1 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1132530">メーター</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1132530">メーター・1</xref></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-09-23 05:55:19" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus</upd_name>
<upd_detl>also consider 平米</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>nikk (not a kanwa entry as far as I can see:
"べい【米】-日本国語大辞典
〔名〕こめ。よね。＊大慈恩寺三蔵法師伝承徳三年点〔１０９９〕九「纔に米（ヘイ）
を給せ令めたり」＊日葡辞書〔１６０３〜０４〕「Bei （ベイ）。コメ」長さの単位
「メートル」に当てて用いる語。たとえば ..." )</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +15,4 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>べい</reb>
+<re_restr>米</re_restr>
+</r_ele>
@@ -23,0 +27,1 @@
+<stagr>メートル</stagr></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-10-02 01:57:28" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I can't see that as a case for べい being here. At the very most it could be a note on sense 1, but I'd want more evidence of べい meaning metre/meter.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,4 +15,0 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>べい</reb>
-<re_restr>米</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
@@ -27,1 +23,0 @@
-<stagr>メートル</stagr></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-05 06:46:11" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
@@ -8,0 +10 @@
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
@@ -25 +27 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1132530">メーター・1</xref>
+<xref type="see">メーター</xref></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-05 10:35:02" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>As for more evidence for 米（べい) meaning meter, it's also
in daijr: べい【米】③ 長さの単位を表す。メートル。 「平米・立
米りゆうべい」</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -27 +27,3 @@
-<xref type="see">メーター</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1132530">メーター・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1132530">メーター・2</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1132530">メーター・3</xref></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-16 15:20:42" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>i've no doubt that べい means metre (in a kanwa way), but that entry cited from daijs is a kanwa entry. (i.e., it is not tagged as a noun). so that supports metre being listed as a definition of 米[べい] in kanjidic (which it already is), not edict.
none of my sources have a non-kanwa entry for 米[べい]. the only source for it being non-kanwa is that nikk entry, but they don't seem to give it as a gloss (it appears to be inserted parenthetically as a note after defining 米[べい] as こめ. what is the rest of the nikk entry?</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -26,4 +26 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1132530">メーター・1</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1132530">メーター・1</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1132530">メーター・2</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1132530">メーター・3</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1132530">メーター</xref></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-21 04:29:32" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>You're right, I missed that the daijr entry was a kanwa entry. I
don't have access to nikk since it disappeared from yahoo, so I
don't know, I think this is most likely fine as is.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -26 +26 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1132530">メーター</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1132530">メーター・1</xref></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-21 04:29:49" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -27 +27 @@
-<gloss>meter (i.e. a gauge)</gloss>
+<gloss>meter</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-03-05 23:15:45" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Adrien Jalabert</upd_name>
<upd_diff>@@ -20 +20 @@
-<lsource xml:lang="fre"/>
+<lsource xml:lang="fre">mètre</lsource></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-03-05 23:25:28" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-03-06 05:32:11" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Is this possibly helpful? Re-visiting my idea from 2012.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,0 +20 @@
+<s_inf>sometimes written as ㍍</s_inf>
@@ -26,0 +28 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-03-06 14:18:13" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think it's necessary. If someone couldn't read it, they wouldn't be able to search for it as a note.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-03-06 20:35:11" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Those odd Unicode glyphs cause heaps of problems. I'm still ducking.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -20 +19,0 @@
-<s_inf>sometimes written as ㍍</s_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-12-02 09:28:16" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>米突 683</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,0 +11 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-10 17:24:47" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>メートル:米 is 99:1 for these four examples. Safe to [rK]?
Sense [2] should be split since it's a different source word, correct?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Google N-gram Corpus Counts
| メートル以上 | 209,681 | 31.7% |
| メートルほど | 202,128 | 30.6% |
| メートルくらい | 153,108 | 23.2% |
| メートル先 | 88,927 | 13.5% |
| 米以上 | 2,111 | 0.3% |
| 米ほど | 2,188 | 0.3% |
| 米くらい | 2,148 | 0.3% |
| 米先 | 753 | 0.1% |</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -6,0 +7 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-10 23:32:50" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>More a matter of inconsistent orthography. Sense 2 is almost always written メーター, but GG5 confirms it can also be メートル. We could split, or even add メートル to the メーター entry but frankly I think it's best left as it is for simplicity. I've added a note.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -29,0 +30 @@
+<s_inf>usu. メーター</s_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-11 10:35:36" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -23 +23 @@
-<gloss>metre</gloss>
+<gloss>metre (unit of length)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>