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<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
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<k_ele>
<keb>麻雀</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>麻将</keb>
<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>マージャン</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>まーじゃん</reb>
<re_nokanji/>
<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>まあじゃん</reb>
<re_nokanji/>
<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<lsource xml:lang="chi">májiàng</lsource>
<gloss>mahjong</gloss>
<gloss>mah-jongg</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2012-10-19 07:34:50" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus</upd_name>
<upd_detl>I find no evidence for まぜじゃん (1300 hits on google, mostly
spam, actual Japanese hits turn out to be "ごちゃまぜ(混ぜ)じゃん")</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daij 研究社 新和英中辞典 nikk
all only give katakana</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -11,9 +11,0 @@
-<reb>まあじゃん</reb>
-<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
-<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
-<re_pri>nf21</re_pri>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>まぜじゃん</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
@@ -21,1 +12,0 @@
-<re_nokanji/>
@@ -28,0 +18,1 @@
+<gloss>mahjong</gloss>
@@ -29,1 +20,0 @@
-<gloss>mahjong</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-10-22 06:58:55" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2016-08-31 15:56:33" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>johan</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Should we put [nokanji] on the hiragana forms?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>麻雀 2182246
マージャン 176306
まーじゃん 15079
まあじゃん 11780</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,0 +13,6 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>まーじゃん</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>まあじゃん</reb>
+</r_ele></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2016-09-01 03:47:11" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2016-11-09 10:37:17" stat="A">
<upd_uid>johan</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -10 +9,0 @@
-<re_pri>gai1</re_pri></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-23 03:31:17" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -13,0 +14,2 @@
+<re_nokanji/>
+<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
@@ -16,0 +19,2 @@
+<re_nokanji/>
+<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-23 23:54:06" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Not sure about the "nokanji".</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-04-11 14:31:19" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>dine</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>the characters corresponding to májiàng is 麻將/麻将, 麻雀 is pronounced as máquè instead</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>《现代汉语词典》
《教育部重編國語辭典修訂本》 https://www.moedict.tw/%E9%BA%BB%E5%B0%87
https://www.weblio.jp/wkpja/content/%E9%BA%BB%E9%9B%80_%E9%BA%BB%E9%9B%80%E3%81%AE%E6%A6%82%E8%A6%81</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -24 +24 @@
-<lsource xml:lang="chi"/>
+<lsource xml:lang="chi">májiàng</lsource></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-04-11 21:52:44" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-09-15 14:47:19" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nicolas Maia</upd_name>
<upd_detl>麻将 12441</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://www.banasuika.xyz/mashounotigai/
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E9%BA%BB%E5%B0%86</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -6,0 +7,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>麻将</keb>
+<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-09-16 00:21:23" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>麻将 is a bit too common to ignore. Certainly "irregular".</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>麻雀 2182246
麻将 12441
麻將 100</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-05-31 19:01:59" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>we have [fld=hanaf] on 花札, so I assume this isn't too weird</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -27,0 +28 @@
+<field>&mahj;</field></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-05-31 23:04:24" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>And [sumo] on the 相撲 entry. Are we happy to keep up this approach?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-01 06:54:33" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nicolas Maia</upd_name>
<upd_detl>Isn't it a little redundant?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-01 08:16:54" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Absolutely. The field tags should be dropped from 花札 and 相撲.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -28 +27,0 @@
-<field>&mahj;</field></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-01 12:57:36" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I thought the purpose of field tags was at least partially to
serve as metadata. For example, you can search "#mahj" on
jisho.org to bring up a list of all mahjong vocabulary.
If we're going to remove tags because they look redundant, should
we also remove the tag from 麻雀牌 ("mahjong tile"), 雀荘 ("mahjong
parlour; mahjong parlor"), 雀卓 ("mahjong table"), etc?
We're actually kind of inconsistent about this right now. In
addition to 麻雀, similar entries like 麻雀打ち and 麻雀クラブ
also don't have the tag.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-02 00:45:24" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>We typically only use field tags for terminology (i.e. technical or special terms). So 積分 gets a math tag but 数学者 does not. It has been suggested in the past that we expand the use of field tags to include all field-related terms but I'm not sure there's much enthusiasm for that idea. I'm quite happy with the current policy, which mirrors that of the JEs and English dictionaries.
Deciding what counts as "terminology" isn't an exact science, but simple A+B terms like 麻雀クラブ or 麻雀打ち wouldn't usually be tagged.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-02 01:55:51" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Thanks for the explanation. I don't have any objections to using
the field tags to mean specific terminology or jargon rather than
categorization, but until now I had no idea that was the
intent. (I finally understand why タンク isn't [mil]).</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-06-02 10:58:51" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>👍</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>