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<entry id="2188064" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2854195</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>男たち</keb>
<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>男達</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>おとこたち</reb>
<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>men</gloss>
<gloss>males</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2022-04-05 19:21:23" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>I know this is A+B, but the problem is that おとこだて also has 男達 as a possible kanji, which means tools like jisho.org or the various rikai* extensions will automatically suggest that meaning, that could easily confuse beginners.

Ngrams:
男伊達   3498
男 達   240427
男 たち 512523

I doubt that high ngram count for 男達 corresponds to the "chivalrous man" sense, when 男伊達 has a much lower ngram count.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-04-05 23:58:21" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Fair enough.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>RP</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +16 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;menfolk&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-04-06 05:16:11" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_diff>@@ -15 +15 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;man&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;men&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-04-06 08:03:18" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-04-06 23:54:07" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think we need "menfolk". Not exactly a common word nowadays.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -16 +15,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;menfolk&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-04-07 12:03:07" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I rather liked it.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-05-28 23:59:30" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Should we give this a spec tag so that it's prioritised over 1792570?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-05-29 01:22:16" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Can do, although 男達 for おとこだて seems odd.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>男たち	1411219	76.9%
男達	424033	23.1%</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+&lt;ke_pri&gt;spec1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
@@ -11,0 +13 @@
+&lt;re_pri&gt;spec1&lt;/re_pri&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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