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jmdict 1418530 Active (id: 2179573)
<entry id="2179573" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1418530</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>炭酸</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf26</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>たんさん</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf26</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>タンサン</reb>
<re_nokanji/>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
<gloss>carbonic acid</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1418550">炭酸水</xref>
<xref type="see" seq="1629060">炭酸飲料</xref>
<misc>&abbr;</misc>
<gloss>carbonated water</gloss>
<gloss>carbonated drink</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="2171780">炭酸水素ナトリウム</xref>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<misc>&abbr;</misc>
<gloss>baking soda</gloss>
<gloss>sodium carbonate</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2012-08-26 04:03:34" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus</upd_name>
<upd_refs>daijs,daijr</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -21,0 +21,6 @@
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1418550"&gt;炭酸水&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;abbr;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;carbonated water&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-08-26 04:08:39" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus</upd_name>
<upd_detl>baking soda is sold under that name (at least where I live), 
in katakana (more than just one brand too, judging from google 
images)</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>http://www.kyoritsu-foods.co.jp/event/tansan/001.htm
http://www.kyousei-nara.jp/tansan-juso/index.htm
"タンサンとは別名 重曹ともいいます。全国的には重曹の方がとおりがいいかも知れ
ませんが関西ではタンサンの方がとおりがいいようです。"
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q132
8949948
etc.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -16,0 +16,4 @@
+&lt;r_ele&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;タンサン&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;re_nokanji/&gt;
+&lt;/r_ele&gt;
@@ -27,0 +31,8 @@
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="2171780"&gt;炭酸水素ナトリウム&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;abbr;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;baking powder&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;sodium carbonate&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-08-26 11:56:33" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>"Baking soda" and "baking powder" are different things.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -36,1 +36,1 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;baking powder&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;baking soda&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-02-20 00:19:05" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>Not exclusive to carbonated water. May refer to any carbonated drink in general.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -29 +29 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;carbonated water&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;carbonated drink&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-02-20 02:21:48" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Do you have a source for that? The kokugos disagree. As do I actually, if somebody asks me 炭酸を飲む? at dinner, I know they're asking if I want soda water, not coke or something similar.

GG5 does have this sentence: ►俺, 炭酸だめなんだよ. I can't drink ┏carbonated beverages [fizzy drinks].
but I think this is just sense 1, a more literal translation would be "I don't like carbonic acid" and it's understood from context the speaker is talking about drinks.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Meikyo daijr daijs koj</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-02-20 03:50:38" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think it's being used for both. Could be split.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -27,0 +28 @@
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1629060"&gt;炭酸飲料&lt;/xref&gt;
@@ -28,0 +30 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;carbonated water&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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