<entry id="2178387" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1013290</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>碌</keb>
<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>陸</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ろく</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<s_inf>used with negative verb</s_inf>
<gloss>satisfactory</gloss>
<gloss>decent</gloss>
<gloss>good</gloss>
<gloss>proper</gloss>
<gloss>worthy</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2012-07-08 11:23:37" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nils Roland Barth</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>* Reorder glosses
* Add “usually negative”
* add [ateji] to 碌 (as per koj)
(Note that I’ve separately proposed that ろくな and ろくに be deleted as just being forms of this.)</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5 daijr koj</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,1 +5,1 @@
-&lt;keb&gt;碌&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;陸&lt;/keb&gt;
@@ -8,1 +8,2 @@
-&lt;keb&gt;陸&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;碌&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;ateji;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -16,0 +17,2 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;(usually in negative) satisfactory&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;decent&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -17,1 +20,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;satisfactory&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -19,1 +21,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;decent&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-07-08 22:54:07" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>碌な gets more hits</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -16,0 +16,1 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -17,1 +18,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;(usually in negative) satisfactory&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;usu. in the negative&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;satisfactory&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-07-08 22:54:26" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,1 +5,2 @@
-&lt;keb&gt;陸&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;碌&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;ateji;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -8,2 +9,1 @@
-&lt;keb&gt;碌&lt;/keb&gt;
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;ateji;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;陸&lt;/keb&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-06-05 11:15:24" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>*Always* in the negative.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daij, koj, gg5</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -18 +18 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;usu. in the negative&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;followed by negative verb&lt;/s_inf&gt;
@@ -21,0 +22 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;proper&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-06-05 23:32:13" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
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</audit>
<audit time="2018-06-06 19:01:41" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -18 +18 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;followed by negative verb&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;used with negative verb&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-02-10 18:27:45" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>mark dufour</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>GG5 has this split in 2 meanings..</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -20,0 +21,9 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;proper&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;enough&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;worthy&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;worth mentioning&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-na;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
@@ -22,2 +31 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;proper&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;worthy&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;right&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-02-10 23:59:51" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>I don't think there's a clear split here. Chujiten's "good" sense has sentences that GG5 has for the "satisfactory" sense. I preferred it as it was. The kokugos only have one sense.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-02-11 01:12:11" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>I agree. I'll switch it back. I'll edit it rather than reject the proposal so that this discussion stays in the history records</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -20,0 +21 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;good&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -22 +22,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;enough&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -24,8 +23,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;worth mentioning&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;/sense&gt;
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-na;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;good&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;right&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>