<entry id="2175860" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2853253</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>ぎゃふんと言わせる</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ぎゃふんといわせる</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<pos>&v1;</pos>
<gloss>to talk (someone) down</gloss>
<gloss>to argue (someone) into silence</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2005-12-22 00:00:00" stat="A">
<upd_detl>Entry created</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-08-04 02:36:41" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Scott</upd_name>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,0 +12,1 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;v5u;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-08-04 03:11:10" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-01-21 14:10:28" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>needed? ぎゃふん is an entry</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>ぎゃふんと言う	158</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-01-22 04:30:51" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Useful. I wouldn't know that 言う was the verb commonly used.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-01-22 05:46:36" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Well, the ngrams reveals its not commonly used.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-01-22 09:53:34" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>It's commonly used as ぎゃふんと言わせる</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-01-22 11:11:56" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Indeed, in fact, that should be the entry. I'll close this and then reopen it with an edit and number change.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>ぎゃふんと言わせる	2015
ぎゃふんと言わせて	2946
GG5: ぎゃふんと言わせる talk sb down; beat sb hollow; squelch sb; argue sb into silence; silence sb with an argument</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-01-22 11:15:46" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>See previous comments.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -3 +2,0 @@
-&lt;ent_seq&gt;2069280&lt;/ent_seq&gt;
@@ -5 +4 @@
-&lt;keb&gt;ぎゃふんと言う&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;ぎゃふんと言わせる&lt;/keb&gt;
@@ -8 +7 @@
-&lt;reb&gt;ぎゃふんという&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;ぎゃふんといわせる&lt;/reb&gt;
@@ -12,3 +11,3 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;v5u;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;to be beaten hollow&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;to be argued into silence&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;v1;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to talk someone down&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to argue someone into silence&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2022-01-22 14:45:18" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -13,2 +13,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;to talk someone down&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;to argue someone into silence&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to talk (someone) down&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to argue (someone) into silence&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>