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<k_ele>
<keb>三嘆</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>三歎</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>さんたん</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&vs;</pos>
<pos>&vi;</pos>
<misc>&form;</misc>
<gloss>deep admiration</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&vs;</pos>
<pos>&vi;</pos>
<misc>&form;</misc>
<gloss>repeatedly lamenting</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2011-11-17 17:33:41" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Scott</upd_name>
<upd_detl>koj and daij don't merge (三嘆 and 讃嘆), but the meaning stated here seems to be shared</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>koj daij</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,1 +5,1 @@
-<keb>賛嘆</keb>
+<keb>三嘆</keb>
@@ -8,1 +8,7 @@
-<keb>三嘆</keb>
+<keb>讃嘆</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>讃歎</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>賛嘆</keb>
@@ -18,1 +24,1 @@
-<gloss>repeatedly crying</gloss>
+<gloss>praising something after having been deeply moved by it</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-11-22 00:51:40" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Yes, the refs all separate 三嘆/三歎 from the rest, but the meaning seems common to me. Sorting on hits.
The extra gloss of Scott's doesn't seem to fit.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Koj, Daijr, GG5, ルミナス</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,1 +5,1 @@
-<keb>三嘆</keb>
+<keb>賛嘆</keb>
@@ -11,0 +11,3 @@
+<keb>三嘆</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -14,1 +17,1 @@
-<keb>賛嘆</keb>
+<keb>三歎</keb>
@@ -22,0 +25,1 @@
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
@@ -24,1 +28,0 @@
-<gloss>praising something after having been deeply moved by it</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-11-30 06:36:27" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-04-16 00:47:45" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>i think there ~may~ be a difference here: the difference between 'admiration' and 'praise' in english (i.e., the former is a private emotion, the latter is a public action; they're not the same). koj, daijs, gg5, meikyo all support this division; daijr does not (it adds ほめる to the definition of 三嘆). also, a legitimate definition was removed from 三嘆.
-
so i think there should be two entries:
三嘆;三歎 [さんたん]
[1][n,vs]
deep admiration
[1][n,vs]
repeatedly lamenting
&
讃嘆;讃歎;賛嘆 [さんたん]
[1][n,vs]
praise;extolment</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-04-16 01:43:04" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>implementing suggested split</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,6 +5,0 @@
-<keb>賛嘆</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>讃嘆</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
@@ -12,3 +6,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>讃歎</keb>
@@ -26,2 +17,7 @@
-<gloss>praise</gloss>
-<gloss>admiration</gloss>
+<gloss>deep admiration</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&vs;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
+<gloss>repeatedly lamenting</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-04-16 03:34:31" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>OK.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-12-29 04:42:59" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>三嘆 608
三歎 256
mk</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -16 +16,2 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
+<pos>&vi;</pos>
+<misc>&form;</misc>
@@ -22 +23,2 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
+<pos>&vi;</pos>
+<misc>&form;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>