<entry id="2170190" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1547710</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>来</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf05</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>らい</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf05</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&pref;</pos>
<gloss>next (year, spring, etc.)</gloss>
<gloss>coming</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&suf;</pos>
<gloss>since (e.g. last month)</gloss>
<gloss>for (e.g. 20 years)</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2013-09-27 04:12:39" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_refs>daijs prog</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -17,1 +17,1 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n-pref;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -21,1 +21,1 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n-suf;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-10-01 04:33:57" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>i think it's wrong to suggest it's a noun at all.  no independent life of its own.  daijs suggests adj-f and suf, but pref and suf should do</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -17,1 +17,1 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n-pref;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;pref;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -21,1 +21,1 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n-suf;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;suf;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-15 00:25:02" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Not in refs. See discussion on the 来伯 entry.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -23,0 +24,6 @@
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;pref;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="2842627"&gt;来伯&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;coming to (country, city)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;arriving in&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-15 12:11:07" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think sense 3 belongs here. It's a kanwa meaning. You can't add 来 to full country names (e.g. 来フランス), only other kanji.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>gg5</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -18 +18,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;next (year, etc.)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;next (year, spring, etc.)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;coming&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -22,0 +24 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;for (20 years, etc.)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-15 17:45:01" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>honestly, if we're adding entries for all the single-kanji country abbreviations, i really don't see a meaningful distinction that would keep this sense for 来 (or pretty much any other kanji) out.  if 伯 gets to be an entry then 来 should too.  they're both actually kanwa</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-15 21:36:00" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>This has already been discussed on at least two entries so I don't really want to repeat myself, but we're making an exception for country names. That appears to be the current policy. See 2248580 and 2836257 for the reasoning.
We haven't decided to turn jmdict into a kanwa dictionary. That would be a *major* policy change.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-19 22:42:40" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Right, but Jim--who agreed with you on the other 伯 thread--is the one who suggested that this be added.  So it seems wrong to suggest that there is an agreed upon current policy.

If 伯 (etc.) is actually a kanwa-type entry and we are "making an exception for it", it's a pretty useless exception unless we allow other kanwa-type entries that would normally combine with it, such as 来-.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-20 14:15:33" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>&gt; it's a pretty useless exception unless we allow other kanwa-type entries that would normally combine with it, such as 来-.
I don't agree with that. Single-kanji country abbreviations often appear on their own (e.g. in headlines) so it's useful to have them searchable.
Presumably that's why several of them are in the kokugos as regular (non-kanwa) entries. But whereas the kokugos only have a select few, we've decided to include *all* of the commonly used ones. In that sense, we're not really making an exception; we're just being consistent where the kokugos are not.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-24 10:59:49" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>OK, I yield.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -26,6 +25,0 @@
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;pref;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="2842627"&gt;来伯&lt;/xref&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;coming to (country, city)&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;arriving in&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-12-19 11:59:06" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -23,2 +23,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;since (last month, etc.)&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;for (20 years, etc.)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;since (e.g. last month)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;for (e.g. 20 years)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>