<entry id="2167324" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1504900</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>糞</keb>
<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>屎</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>くそ</reb>
<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>クソ</reb>
<re_nokanji/>
<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>∫</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>damn</gloss>
<gloss>damn it</gloss>
<gloss>shit</gloss>
<gloss>crap</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&col;</misc>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>feces</gloss>
<gloss>excrement</gloss>
<gloss>dung</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&pref;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>damn</gloss>
<gloss>damned</gloss>
<gloss>blasted</gloss>
<gloss>stupid</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&pref;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>very</gloss>
<gloss>extremely</gloss>
<gloss>really</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
<misc>&col;</misc>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>terrible</gloss>
<gloss>awful</gloss>
<gloss>shit</gloss>
<gloss>crap</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&adv;</pos>
<misc>&sl;</misc>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>a lot</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<s_inf>as ...もくそもない or ...もくそもあるか</s_inf>
<gloss>negligible</gloss>
<gloss>insignificant</gloss>
<gloss>not mattering at all</gloss>
<gloss>counting for nothing</gloss>
<gloss>hardly worth consideration</gloss>
<gloss>out of the question</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2012-04-28 10:16:44" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus</upd_name>
<upd_refs>katakana, 41 million hits</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -21,0 +21,4 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>クソ</reb>
+<re_nokanji/>
+</r_ele>
@@ -37,0 +41,1 @@
+<stagr>クソ</stagr></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-05-04 23:23:30" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-09-07 01:30:26" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus</upd_name>
<upd_refs>5,740,000 results
lots of "くっそわろたwwww" etc.
"「筋力P余った…くっそ！体当りの出番や！」"
"くっそ腹立つATM見つけたwwwwwwww"</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -18,0 +18,3 @@
+<reb>くっそ</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
@@ -27,0 +30,1 @@
+<stagr>くっそ</stagr>
@@ -41,0 +45,1 @@
+<stagr>くっそ</stagr></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-09-07 11:15:25" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-03-29 02:08:27" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>winnie</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -42,0 +42,1 @@
+<gloss>dung</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-03-29 07:04:38" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2016-04-07 04:14:48" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>ngrams
クソおもしろい 436
クソ面白い 770
クソワロタ
http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E3%82%AF%E3%82%BD
"凄いことを表現する言葉。「クソすっげー」「クソかっけー」うんこすげー
とは言わない。"
http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E3%82%AF%E3%82%BD%E3%83%AF%E3%
83%AD%E3%82%BF
"クソワロタとは、「糞＝めちゃくちゃ、ワロタ＝笑った」の変語である。"</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -49 +49 @@
-<gloss>damn (adds emphasis and or annoyance to next word, e.g. damn hot, damn kids, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>damn</gloss>
@@ -50,0 +51,19 @@
+<gloss>blasted</gloss>
+<gloss>stupid</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<stagr>くそ</stagr>
+<stagr>くっそ</stagr>
+<stagr>クソ</stagr>
+<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
+<misc>&sl;</misc>
+<gloss>very</gloss>
+<gloss>extremely</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<stagr>くそ</stagr>
+<stagr>くっそ</stagr>
+<stagr>クソ</stagr>
+<pos>&adv;</pos>
+<misc>&sl;</misc>
+<gloss>a lot</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2016-04-07 07:03:56" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-02-06 15:28:38" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>johan</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>G n-grams:
糞 2793696
屎 4733
くそ 819434
くっそ 84587
ふん 1599247 - false matches
クソ 1286691</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -7,0 +8 @@
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
@@ -15,0 +17 @@
+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
@@ -26,0 +29 @@
+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-02-07 03:25:56" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-23 05:32:39" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Only sense that didn't have a col or sl tag.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -51,0 +52 @@
+<misc>&col;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-25 05:34:52" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>existing restrictions make no sense... "クソ" isn't used for "bullshit"???
also, given the four restrictions on five senses, 2/3 isn't really met. ふん should be split out.
also, [uk] should be considered here</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -23,4 +22,0 @@
-<reb>ふん</reb>
-<re_restr>糞</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
@@ -32,2 +27,0 @@
-<stagr>くそ</stagr>
-<stagr>くっそ</stagr>
@@ -48,3 +41,0 @@
-<stagr>くそ</stagr>
-<stagr>くっそ</stagr>
-<stagr>クソ</stagr>
@@ -59,3 +49,0 @@
-<stagr>くそ</stagr>
-<stagr>くっそ</stagr>
-<stagr>クソ</stagr>
@@ -68,3 +55,0 @@
-<stagr>くそ</stagr>
-<stagr>くっそ</stagr>
-<stagr>クソ</stagr></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-25 06:25:21" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-26 07:07:37" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>5 of the 10 Tanaka sentences for 糞 are using sense 1 with the kana forms above. They need to go in as "nokanji", but it's messy. Also they probably should be restricted to sense 1, but that will be even messier.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>G n-grams:
クソっ 10484
くそっ 107603
クソッ 17342
くそー 59468
クソー 6881</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -25,0 +26,20 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>くそっ</reb>
+<re_nokanji/>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>くそー</reb>
+<re_nokanji/>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>クソッ</reb>
+<re_nokanji/>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>クソっ</reb>
+<re_nokanji/>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>クソー</reb>
+<re_nokanji/></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-26 10:16:10" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>we could place くそっ etc. in a separate entry and xref to this entry</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-26 21:52:47" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>temp approve</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-26 21:58:57" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>yes, i am tempted to say that nothing but くそ and クソ belong as readings of 糞. no native speaker would be given the kanji 糞 and if you asked them to say it aloud say "くそー". those should all be kana-only entries that link here.
-
also, are we sure that [news2,nf34] belongs to くそ and not to ふん? i would read it as ふん in a newspaper, but that may simply be because i learned くそ as a curse before i learned it as a real noun</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-26 22:12:35" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>implemented</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -20,3 +19,0 @@
-<reb>くっそ</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
@@ -26,20 +22,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>くそっ</reb>
-<re_nokanji/>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>くそー</reb>
-<re_nokanji/>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>クソッ</reb>
-<re_nokanji/>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>クソっ</reb>
-<re_nokanji/>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>クソー</reb>
-<re_nokanji/></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-26 22:20:06" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>i just did a quick search for 糞 on yomiuri.co.jp and i suspect that i am correct. it's all about dog shit and bat shit and cat shit where i would normally read it as ふん.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -6,2 +5,0 @@
-<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
-<ke_pri>nf34</ke_pri>
@@ -15,2 +12,0 @@
-<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
-<re_pri>nf34</re_pri></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-26 22:55:32" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think this is a good way to go. I'll sort out the examples.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-03-07 01:53:56" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Hard to gloss.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijr
sense 1.2: " 垢あかや滓かす。 「目－」 「鼻－」 「金－」 〔「…もくそもない（あるか）」の形で、その物事が問題にならない意を、いらだちののしって
表す場合にも用いる〕"
https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1133718716
Q: "言葉の使い方
「～も、クソもない」
って言い方よく使いませんか？
例えば、
「あの人のこと嫌い？」
「嫌いもクソも、しゃべったことすらない」
ってかんじで・・・
知人に汚いって言われたのですが、
関西人がよく使うのか、それとも私の周りだけがよく使うのか
ご意見お願いします。"
BA: "聞いたことのある言葉ですが、使ったことはありません。
（一回使ってみようかな）"
https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q10110579325
"値段に納得して買ったなら詐欺もクソもなくね？"</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -21,0 +22 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -29,0 +31 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -35,0 +38 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -44,0 +48 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -50,0 +55 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -52,0 +58,7 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&exp;</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<s_inf>as ～もくそも（ない）</s_inf>
+<gloss>not at all</gloss>
+<gloss>not even a little</gloss>
+</sense></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-03-08 06:51:15" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-02-01 01:20:01" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>くそ is quite a bit tamer than "shit" so I propose leading with "damn". I don't think "bullshit" works.
I don't think col is needed on senses 3 and 4. Also, these senses are prefixes according to the kokugos.
Added an adj-na sense.
I've tried improving the ...もくそもない sense. Also, I've changed the PoS to [n]; although we're translating the expression "...もくそもない", くそ itself is still a noun.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>gg5, daij, meikyo, koj
クソな examples:
https://chrome.hatenablog.jp/entry/2017/10/22/135248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f5zx4p-Ewg
https://twitter.com/nitoro_kikaku/status/1354024473045786625</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -23,2 +23,2 @@
-<misc>&col;</misc>
-<gloss>bullshit</gloss>
+<gloss>damn</gloss>
+<gloss>damn it</gloss>
@@ -26 +26 @@
-<gloss>damn</gloss>
+<gloss>crap</gloss>
@@ -37,3 +37,2 @@
-<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<misc>&col;</misc>
+<pos>&pref;</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -46,2 +45 @@
-<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
-<misc>&sl;</misc>
+<pos>&pref;</pos>
@@ -50,0 +49,10 @@
+<gloss>really</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
+<misc>&col;</misc>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<gloss>terrible</gloss>
+<gloss>awful</gloss>
+<gloss>shit</gloss>
+<gloss>crap</gloss>
@@ -59,5 +67,9 @@
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<s_inf>as ～もくそも（ない）</s_inf>
-<gloss>not at all</gloss>
-<gloss>not even a little</gloss>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<s_inf>as ...もくそもない or ...もくそもあるか</s_inf>
+<gloss>negligible</gloss>
+<gloss>insignificant</gloss>
+<gloss>not mattering at all</gloss>
+<gloss>counting for nothing</gloss>
+<gloss>hardly worth consideration</gloss>
+<gloss>out of the question</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-02-03 05:58:06" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-12-02 09:29:42" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>糞ばばあ 338
屎ばばあ No matches
くそばばあ 3453
クソばばあ 675</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -9,0 +10 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>