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<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
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<k_ele>
<keb>代替</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf08</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>代替え</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>だいたい</reb>
<re_restr>代替</re_restr>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf08</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>だいがえ</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&vs;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>substitution</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
<gloss>alternative</gloss>
<gloss>substitute</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2010-09-15 06:44:52" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>there's already an entry for だいがわり. this could be added there without restrictions, and that would also allow for the much-needed [io] tag to be added
-
だいたい is a more common reading, i think. how are readings for news1/nf decided? it seems strange that one reading would get the ichi1 and another would get news1. also, 代替 is [io] for だいがえ, so if だいがえ really deserves usage tags, i'd assume that those tags would go on 代替え, not 代替.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -14,0 +14,5 @@
+<reb>だいたい</reb>
+<re_restr>代替</re_restr>
+<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
@@ -17,9 +22,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>だいがわり</reb>
-<re_restr>代替</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>だいたい</reb>
-<re_restr>代替</re_restr>
-<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
@@ -38,0 +34,1 @@
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-09-15 06:45:19" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -26,1 +26,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-09-15 06:54:30" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>and 'change of ownership' is a leftover from だいがわり. i'm not so sure about 'subrogation'. eijiro has that as 代位 and kojien, daijrin and daijisen say that it has that legal meaning</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -26,1 +26,0 @@
-<gloss>change of ownership</gloss>
@@ -28,1 +27,0 @@
-<gloss>subrogation</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-09-15 12:22:49" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think the 代替/代替わり split is a good idea. The meanings are different. "subrogation" really only goes with 代替わり.
The "news1,nf08" is really on the wrong reading - it should be on だいたい. It was added to だいがえ purely because it was
earlier in kana ordering.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5, etc. etc.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -17,0 +17,2 @@
+<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
+<re_pri>nf08</re_pri>
@@ -20,2 +22,0 @@
-<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
-<re_pri>nf08</re_pri></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-09-15 13:39:56" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-11-06 03:59:43" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>meikyo</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -25,0 +26 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-11-08 13:29:59" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think "alternation" is right. The JEs don't have it.
Shouldn't have both adj-no and adj-f on the same sense.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -28 +27,0 @@
-<gloss>alternation</gloss>
@@ -31 +29,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-f;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-11-08 19:34:16" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>