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jmdict 2100860 Active (id: 2156261)
<entry id="2156261" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2100860</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>こちらの話</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>此方の話</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>こちらのはなし</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<gloss>matter being discussed (e.g. in a private conversation)</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<gloss>our side of the story (in contrast to another's version)</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2006-09-06 00:00:00" stat="A">
<upd_detl>Entry created</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-10-19 15:56:03" stat="D" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>current meaning is wrong, not in any dictionaries</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-10-21 23:18:05" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I can't trace the arrival of this. Paul Blay amended it in 2008 (adding 此方の話) and added the こっちの話 version. He said  of the latter " I hear this one more often because it's more colloquial." I suspect the main meaning is "this topic" or "this item of conversation."
Time for an NSJ  check. It's very common.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5: 彼はこちらの話に乗ってこなかった. He 「refused to be drawn [wouldn't join us]. | We couldn't get him on board.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -16,1 +16,0 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="2262990"&gt;こっちの話&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-10-22 00:25:03" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_detl>I think it's just a variant of "私の話" (which gets 9x the hits 
on bing)</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-10-25 01:16:57" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>This is sort-of the outcome of the discussions. I'll approve it to get it out there, then reopen.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Discussion on SLJ group.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -16,1 +16,5 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;talking to oneself&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;matter being discussed (e.g. in a private conversation)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;exp;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;our side of the story (in contrast to another's version)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-10-25 01:17:21" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Reopening.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-10-31 22:42:27" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Closing.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-11-06 06:30:33" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>こちらの話	18159
此方の話	153</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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