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<entry id="2154108" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1355540</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>冗談</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf08</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>戯談</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>串戯</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>串戲</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>じょうだん</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf08</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ぎだん</reb>
<re_restr>戯談</re_restr>
<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>げだん</reb>
<re_restr>戯談</re_restr>
<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>joke</gloss>
<gloss>jest</gloss>
<gloss>funny story</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2010-10-25 18:52:28" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Scott</upd_name>
<upd_detl>笑談 is listed as しょうだん in both daij and koj so this might be a mistake.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>nikk</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,0 +12,9 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;ateji;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;戯談&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;ateji;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;串戯&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;ateji;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-10-25 20:53:33" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>yeah, i'm not buying it.  笑談 should have its own entry.  and nikkoku lists its 
earliest usage as the 15th century, so it's not a soseki-ism

those aren't ateji, btw.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -11,4 +11,0 @@
-&lt;keb&gt;笑談&lt;/keb&gt;
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;ateji;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
-&lt;/k_ele&gt;
-&lt;k_ele&gt;
@@ -16,1 +12,0 @@
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;ateji;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -20,1 +15,0 @@
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;ateji;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -31,1 +25,0 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;笑談 is an ateji created by 夏目漱石&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-10-26 07:04:09" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -25,0 +25,2 @@
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="2589580"&gt;笑談・しょうだん・2&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;sometimes written 笑談&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-10-26 07:05:34" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-10-31 01:00:26" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>accidentally rolled back jim's changes</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -22,0 +22,10 @@
+&lt;r_ele&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;ぎだん&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;re_restr&gt;戯談&lt;/re_restr&gt;
+&lt;re_inf&gt;&amp;ok;&lt;/re_inf&gt;
+&lt;/r_ele&gt;
+&lt;r_ele&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;げだん&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;re_restr&gt;戯談&lt;/re_restr&gt;
+&lt;re_inf&gt;&amp;ok;&lt;/re_inf&gt;
+&lt;/r_ele&gt;
@@ -26,1 +36,1 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;sometimes written 笑談&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;じょうだん is sometimes written 笑談&lt;/s_inf&gt;
@@ -29,0 +39,1 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;funny story&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-03-10 19:28:45" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Scott</upd_name>
<upd_detl>another variant. And I don't understand why I can see the 3 rejected entries.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +15,3 @@
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;串戲&lt;/keb&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-03-10 22:09:19" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I can't see rejected entries (unless I ask for them.)</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-10-27 08:29:02" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think this is an adjective</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>冗談の	90771	  
冗談のよう	29469	  
冗談のつもり	24113	  
冗談のような	17330	  
冗談のつもりで	13173	  
冗談のように	8222	  
冗談のつもりだっ	5359	  
冗談のつもりだった	5317	  
冗談のつもりで書い	3131	  
冗談の通じ	3041	  
冗談のつもりで書いた	2961</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -37 +36,0 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-no;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-10-28 17:02:14" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think we should drop the 笑談 note. It's only in meikyo as "もと「笑談」とも".</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>冗談を言って	28720
笑談を言って	No matches</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -37,2 +37 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="2589580"&gt;笑談・しょうだん・2&lt;/xref&gt;
-&lt;s_inf&gt;じょうだん is sometimes written 笑談&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;joke&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -40 +38,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;joke&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-10-28 20:01:20" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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