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jmdict 1607070 Active (id: 2147878)
<entry id="2147878" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1607070</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>叔父</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf16</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>伯父</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf23</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>おじ</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf16</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf23</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>はくふ</reb>
<re_restr>伯父</re_restr>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>しゅくふ</reb>
<re_restr>叔父</re_restr>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1607100">叔母・おば</xref>
<s_inf>伯父 or 叔父 respectively can mean older or younger than one's parent</s_inf>
<gloss>uncle</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2011-07-24 12:39:59" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Attempting a meaningful merge of 1607070 and 1607080.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Daij.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,0 +10,6 @@
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;叔父&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_pri&gt;ichi1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
+&lt;ke_pri&gt;news1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
+&lt;ke_pri&gt;nf16&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -14,0 +20,1 @@
+&lt;re_pri&gt;nf16&lt;/re_pri&gt;
@@ -22,1 +29,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;uncle (older than one's parent)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;伯父 or 叔父 can mean older or younger than one's parent&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;uncle&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-07-24 18:23:58" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>one reading left out of merge</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -25,0 +25,5 @@
+&lt;re_restr&gt;伯父&lt;/re_restr&gt;
+&lt;/r_ele&gt;
+&lt;r_ele&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;しゅくふ&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;re_restr&gt;叔父&lt;/re_restr&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-07-24 18:28:54" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -33,0 +33,2 @@
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1607100"&gt;叔母・おば&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1607100"&gt;伯母・おば&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-07-24 19:00:16" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>also, i don't think this is really 'humble'  (i think there are lots of family words in edict that are marked 'humble' when they shouldn't be, simply because they are usually used to refer to one's own family as opposed to someone else's.  but all that really means is that they aren't honorific.  it doesn't make them humble by default.)</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -34,2 +34,1 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1607100"&gt;伯母・おば&lt;/xref&gt;
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;hum;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1607100"&gt;叔母・おば&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-07-24 23:10:40" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-06-16 23:09:43" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>Hi, "伯父 or 叔父 can mean older or younger than one's parent" seems rather ambiguous to me. The way I understand it from elsewhere is that 伯 is for older and 叔 is for younger, but I don't think the definition currently explains this very clearly. Perhaps at least there should be a "respectively" in there somewhere...</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-06-17 05:41:45" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>The JEs ignore older/younger. Koj and Daijr point them out. This is close to being two entries, but I'd really prefer one "おじ/uncle" entry.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -34,1 +34,1 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;伯父 or 叔父 can mean older or younger than one's parent&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;伯父 or 叔父 respectively can mean older or younger than one's parent&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-09-27 15:08:23" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Frazer Robinson</upd_name>
<upd_detl>Also aligns with the 叔母 entry</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>goog
叔父	599219
伯父	314492
wisdom</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -3,0 +4,6 @@
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;叔父&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_pri&gt;ichi1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
+&lt;ke_pri&gt;news1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
+&lt;ke_pri&gt;nf16&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -9,6 +14,0 @@
-&lt;/k_ele&gt;
-&lt;k_ele&gt;
-&lt;keb&gt;叔父&lt;/keb&gt;
-&lt;ke_pri&gt;ichi1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
-&lt;ke_pri&gt;news1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
-&lt;ke_pri&gt;nf16&lt;/ke_pri&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-09-28 04:22:55" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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