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<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
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<k_ele>
<keb>灯</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf09</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ひ</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf09</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>light</gloss>
<gloss>lamp</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2011-01-18 22:09:55" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Scott</upd_name>
<upd_diff>@@ -26,0 +26,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>ともし火</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -47,0 +50,1 @@
+<gloss>torch</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-01-18 22:15:58" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>Daij</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -39,0 +39,1 @@
+<re_restr>燈火</re_restr></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-01-19 02:37:14" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-08-29 07:58:02" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>should this be split into multiple entries?
I think ひ and ともしび don't belong together,
ともしび is a fire burning, ひ can be electric.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/89017/the-reading-of-%E7%81%AF</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-08-30 04:29:06" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>The JEs group them this way (e.g. GG5):
灯 (ひ,とう) light, lamp
灯火・燈火 (ともしび) light, lamp
灯火 (とうか) light; lamplight
The kokugos add 火 and sometimes 燭 to ともしび. 新明解 only has 灯 as a kanji form for it. Koj xrefs 燈火 to とうか. GG5 alone has 燈火 for ともしび.
They all use much the same definitions.
I'm inclined to split とうか into a separate entry, but leave the rest combined, and add とう as a reading for 灯. Any views on this?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>灯 3060580
灯火 254013
灯し火 2805
燭 163019
燈火 20996
ともし火 16651</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-09-01 00:41:19" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think each of these readings should be a separate entry. It's just too messy otherwise. I'm happy to set it up.
とう is already a separate entry with an additional counter sense. Could be merged here but I don't think it's necessary.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-09-01 02:51:02" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Makes sense to me.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-09-01 11:41:36" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I'll assume there are no objections.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,19 +9,0 @@
-<k_ele>
-<keb>灯火</keb>
-<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
-<ke_pri>nf34</ke_pri>
-<ke_pri>spec2</ke_pri>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>灯し火</keb>
-<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>燭</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>燈火</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>ともし火</keb>
-</k_ele>
@@ -31 +11,0 @@
-<re_restr>灯</re_restr>
@@ -35,11 +14,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>とうか</reb>
-<re_restr>灯火</re_restr>
-<re_restr>燈火</re_restr>
-<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
-<re_pri>nf34</re_pri>
-<re_pri>spec2</re_pri>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ともしび</reb>
@@ -51 +19,0 @@
-<gloss>torch</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-09-01 23:55:22" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>