<entry id="2105828" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
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<ent_seq>2844736</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>と言い</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>といい</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<s_inf>as ...といい...といい</s_inf>
<gloss>in terms of both ... and ...</gloss>
<gloss>from the perspective of ... as well as ...</gloss>
<gloss>whether it be ... or ...</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2020-05-15 01:44:00" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nicolas Maia</upd_name>
<upd_detl>My primary reason for including this is sense 2. While rather obvious, I added sense 1 too because having only #2 would confuse dictionary users, and since #1 is more common, I'm leading with that one.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>http://jlptdictionary.com/viewentry.php?intEntryID=17433
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XZdhadlS68&amp;list=PLINFE8v4DOhszv2Z5hTknh41IIN3ejuO4
http://jlptdictionary.com/viewentry.php?intEntryID=17395</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-05-22 08:11:27" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Two different "いい". The first is いい/よい and the second 言い/いい. I'll reduce this just to the second sense. Closing and reopening.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Daijr, GG5, 中辞典</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;と言い&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -9,5 +12,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;it would be nice if ...&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;I hope ...&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;/sense&gt;
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;exp;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;as in 色といいデザインといい&lt;/s_inf&gt;
@@ -14,0 +15 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;... as well as ...&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-05-22 08:12:02" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-05-23 19:30:30" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think we need a specific example.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijr, DAJG</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -13,3 +13,4 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;as in 色といいデザインといい&lt;/s_inf&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;both... and...&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;... as well as ...&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;as ...といい...といい&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;in terms of both ... and ...&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;from the perspective of ... as well as ...&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;whether it be ... or ....&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-05-23 23:00:27" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_diff>@@ -13 +13 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;as ...といい...といい&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;as Aといい、Bといい&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-05-24 11:15:30" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>That's not our usual style.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -13 +13 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;as Aといい、Bといい&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;as ...といい...といい&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-05-24 11:33:09" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>I feel that's very opaque. Also to be fair 
you don't have one single style - it 
changes wildly from entry to entry.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-05-24 11:48:08" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nicolas Maia</upd_name>
<upd_detl>I think using A and B makes it clearer.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-05-24 22:35:21" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think it's necessary in this case. The note and the glosses both have two sets of ellipses.
We tend to use letters only when there's repetition of same term, or when order is important.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-05-25 01:02:00" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_diff>@@ -13 +13 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;as ...といい...といい&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;as ...といい、...といい&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-05-25 12:20:38" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Not needed; I see plenty of examples without the comma (e.g. in the GG5 example.)</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -13 +13 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;as ...といい、...といい&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;as ...といい...といい&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-06-18 11:41:23" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>dine</upd_name>
<upd_detl>typo</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -16 +16 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;whether it be ... or ....&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;whether it be ... or ...&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-06-18 12:09:09" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>