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<entry id="2104222" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1126040</ent_seq>
<r_ele>
<reb>ポンプ</reb>
<re_pri>gai1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<lsource xml:lang="dut">pomp</lsource>
<gloss>pump</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2010-08-02 22:35:30" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>adding actual lsrc word and note</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>koj, daijr, daijs</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,1 +10,2 @@
-&lt;lsource xml:lang="dut"/&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;also written as 喞筒&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;lsource xml:lang="dut"&gt;pomp&lt;/lsource&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2010-08-03 07:02:37" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-31 06:25:08" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nicolas Maia</upd_name>
<upd_detl>Kokugos treat it as a regular reading.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://kotobank.jp/word/%E5%96%9E%E7%AD%92-534245</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -3,0 +4,4 @@
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;喞筒&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;ateji;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -10 +14 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;also written as 喞筒&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-31 11:51:31" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>You've just set up two entries with 喞筒 + pump (2/3 merge rule violation.) Only Nikkoku does it this way - Koj and Daijr/s keep ポンプ away from 喞筒. Frankly, I prefer it the way it was.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -4,4 +3,0 @@
-&lt;k_ele&gt;
-&lt;keb&gt;喞筒&lt;/keb&gt;
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;ateji;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
-&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -14 +10 @@
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;also written as 喞筒&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-31 13:22:09" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nicolas Maia</upd_name>
<upd_detl>It wouldn't really violate the rule since this word has a different etymology. I don't get the rationale for using notes for the reading, it seems pointless since they're not parseable and well, that's exactly what the reading field is for. If the issue is low frequency, there are ways of indicating its low usage.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-06-01 05:52:43" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>"I don't get the rationale for using notes for the reading ..". That's not the case here. (BTW, the kanji in 喞筒 don't have the reading ポンプ.)</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-06-02 14:20:35" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>喞筒 is not ateji (in the strict sense) as the characters are not used for their sound. Rather, ポンプ is a gikun reading of 喞筒. See the Wikipedia article above for more (mostly obsolete) gairaigo gikun examples.
I suggest adding ポンプ[gikun] to the 喞筒 entry and dropping any reference to 喞筒 from this entry. See 洋灯/ようとう/ランプ for an example of how we've handled this before.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%BE%A9%E8%A8%93#%E6%98%8E%E6%B2%BB%E3%83%BB%E5%A4%A7%E6%AD%A3</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-06-02 18:53:47" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>i agree.  put it in over there</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -10 +9,0 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;also written as 喞筒&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-06-02 21:39:47" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Fine with me.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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