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jmdict 1089750 Active (id: 2104098)
<entry id="2104098" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1089750</ent_seq>
<r_ele>
<reb>ナイチンゲール</reb>
<re_pri>gai1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ナイティンゲール</reb>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ナイチンゲイル</reb>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ナイティンゲイル</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>nightingale (Luscinia megarhynchos)</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&person;</misc>
<gloss>Nightingale, Florence (1820-1910)</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2021-05-17 14:03:32" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_diff>@@ -11,0 +12,5 @@
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;person;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;Florence Nightingale&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-17 20:51:37" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Not sure she makes it as an "extremely important historical ... figure". Better to expand 
the names entry.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>ナイチンゲール	87400
ナイティンゲール	867
ナイチンゲイル	64
ナイティンゲイル	64</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -7,0 +8,9 @@
+&lt;r_ele&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;ナイティンゲール&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;/r_ele&gt;
+&lt;r_ele&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;ナイチンゲイル&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;/r_ele&gt;
+&lt;r_ele&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;ナイティンゲイル&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;/r_ele&gt;
@@ -11,5 +19,0 @@
-&lt;/sense&gt;
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;person;&lt;/misc&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;Florence Nightingale&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-18 07:09:38" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_refs>google results for ナイチンゲール are all about Florence. To me, she meets the criteria, as an extremely well-known historical person.</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-19 00:56:49" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>We currently only have a handful of person entries in JMdict. Unless we want to significantly expand their number, I don't think Florence Nightingale quite makes the grade at this moment in time.
I note that she isn't included in the biography section of Wikipedia's "List of articles every Wikipedia should have", which could possibly serve as a guide for deciding which people should have an entry in JMdict. There are about 60 "top-priority" people on that page (marked in bold).</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_articles_every_Wikipedia_should_have#Biography</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-19 01:19:54" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>OK, but do you really think that for example Louis Pasteur (bolded), David Hilbert (bolded) are more commonly referred to in Japanese 
mainstream discourse, better known to a large amount of people, than Florence Nightingale? Or even Richard Wagner,  Moliere, Alan Turing, 
Immanuel Kant, John Locke? I'm pretty sure they're not. I think you can hit up a random 15-y-o on the street and the name they'd be the 
best-acquainted list of those + Nightingale, would be Nightingale. I actually added her name here because I heard a nurse say "ナイチンゲー
ル精神じゃないけど・・・" in a TV interview. (I think it was -精神, not 100% sure)
The Wikipedia list seems to focus on people who were the most IMPORTANT in their respective fields rather than people who are well-known 
and frequently referenced to. Maybe that's a key difference between an encyclopedia trying to assign importance to different topics, while 
a dictionary is merely trying to describe a language as it's used? I think it would make more sense to make frequency of reference rather 
than "importance" the guiding principle here.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-20 01:24:42" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I am in the process of drafting an issue topic on expanding the number of "person" entries in JMdict, which may well lead to this entry including mention of Florence Nightingale. I'm adding and approving it as a test. I'll approve and reopen.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -19 +19,6 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;nightingale&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;nightingale (Luscinia megarhynchos)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;person;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;Nightingale, Florence (1820-1910)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-20 01:24:59" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Reopen.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-06-01 07:01:41" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Probably no need to leave this open.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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