<entry id="2103351" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1471460</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>破落戸</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ごろつき</reb>
<re_inf>&gikun;</re_inf>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ゴロツキ</reb>
<re_nokanji/>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1637810">ならず者</xref>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>rogue</gloss>
<gloss>thug</gloss>
<gloss>hoodlum</gloss>
<gloss>punk</gloss>
<gloss>racketeer</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2014-01-31 07:10:43" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Chris Vasselli</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>実用日本語表現辞典 、難読語辞典</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -9,0 +10,3 @@
+&lt;/r_ele&gt;
+&lt;r_ele&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;ゴロツキ&lt;/reb&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-01-31 07:26:00" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>Ngrams.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+&lt;re_nokanji/&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-10-30 15:18:06" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>shinmeikai</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6,4 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;ateji;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;無頼&lt;/keb&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-10-30 19:56:30" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-11 05:12:51" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>EM</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I am not going to edit this entry, just leaving a comment. I am pretty sure the two kanji representations of the word are not ateji--they are not borrowed kanji for the pronunciation.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-11 05:53:02" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>As can be seen, the kokugos all label 破落戸 as 当て字. We usually try and take a firmer line on this tag and restrict it to matching kanji readings, which is not the case here. I suggest we drop it from the kanji forms and tag ごろつき as gikun (義訓). Possibly we need to (re)think the policy on this - I don't like loose use of 当て字 tags but certainly going with the flow is easier.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Koj: (「破落戸」と書くのは当て字)
Daijr: 〔「破落戸」の字を当てることもある〕
明鏡: 「〈破落戸〉」と当てた。
Wikipedia: 「破落戸」「無頼」の字を当てる場合がある。</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -6 +5,0 @@
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;ateji;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -10 +8,0 @@
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;ateji;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -13,0 +12 @@
+&lt;re_inf&gt;&amp;gikun;&lt;/re_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-16 00:25:11" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>No reaction; closing.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-16 05:44:30" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Doesn't gikun imply that the kanji came first, and the reading later?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-16 22:23:16" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Well that's usually the case but I don't think it's mandatory.
It might be useful to have a tag for kanji applied to a term but which don't spell out the 
reading. We could use "ateji" as do many references, but it grates a bit.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-19 00:44:10" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I really think 無頼 doesn't fit here. Rene added it 2 years ago based on shinmeikai but no other reference has it, and it's already an entry on its own: (無頼 （ぶらい） (adj-no,adj-na,n) (1) villainous; rascally; knavish; (adj-no,adj-na,n) (2) (arch) independent; self-reliant)</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -6,3 +5,0 @@
-&lt;/k_ele&gt;
-&lt;k_ele&gt;
-&lt;keb&gt;無頼&lt;/keb&gt;
@@ -19,0 +17 @@
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1637810"&gt;ならず者&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-24 04:27:06" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Noone seems to be objecting.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>