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<k_ele>
<keb>本国</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf07</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ほんごく</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf07</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ほんこく</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<stagr>ほんごく</stagr>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>home country</gloss>
<gloss>one's own country</gloss>
<gloss>country of origin</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<stagr>ほんごく</stagr>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>suzerain country (from the perspective of the vassal state)</gloss>
<gloss>colonizing country</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<stagr>ほんごく</stagr>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>country of one's ancestors</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>this country</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2017-08-27 14:42:26" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Not sure if there's an equivalent term in English.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijs: " 植民地ではない,その国固有の領土。「―政府」"
daijr: "植民地などに対して、その国本来の領土。「―から独立する」"</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,0 +20,4 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>home country (as opposed to a colony)</gloss>
+</sense></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-08-27 15:51:35" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>koj, gg5, shinmeikai</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -23,0 +24,4 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>country of one's ancestors</gloss>
+</sense></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-06-15 01:45:38" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nicolas Maia</upd_name>
<upd_detl>I just saw a Japanese person use this in the sense of 'country where the company headquarters are', in the sentence:
外資系の化粧品会社に勤めていて、本国とやり取りするのに英語が必要です</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-06-15 07:04:47" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Probably an abbreviation of 本社の国 or 本部国, etc.
See what others think.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -27,0 +28,5 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
+<gloss>country of a company's headquarters</gloss>
+</sense></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-06-16 19:55:26" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>i know for a fact that my japanese has really gone to total crap in the 10 years since i left japan, so i don't want to make an ass of myself if i'm wrong. but are you sure that 本国 really means "country of a company's headquarters" in that sentence? i read it as meaning something like "...although mostly dealing with *my own country*, i still need english" or something.
is my translation totally wrong? where's the reference for this meaning "country of a company's headquarters"?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-06-17 00:51:43" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think the 本国 in the sense Nicolas saw could also be treated as a "subsense" or part of sense 1, "one's own country", i.e. "the country
where (one/a company) is based(/from)". on the other hand, daij and nikk all explicitly define sense 1 in relation to a person: "その人の国籍の
ある国" "その人の生まれ育った国。" "その人の生まれ育った国。"</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>"this country" is in nikk: ③ (「ほんこく」とも) この国。当国。
more examples of what NIcolas saw:
"外国会社には、本国の商号や本店所在地、資本金や役員が登記されています。"
https://shiodome.co.jp/js/blog/1340
https://gaishishukatsu.com/archives/32935
"外資系は所詮日本支社。なんちゃってグローバルで満足するな..."
"もちろんマネージャー以上になれば、今度は本国に対するレポーティングをしなければいけないので英語が必要にはなります。"
https://www.enworld.com/blog/2019/11/gaishi-images
"設立して間もないころはとくに本国とのやり取りが多くなるため、高い英語力が必要とされます。"</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +16,3 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ほんこく</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -16,0 +20 @@
+<stagr>ほんごく</stagr>
@@ -20,0 +25 @@
+<stagr>ほんごく</stagr>
@@ -24,0 +30 @@
+<stagr>ほんごく</stagr>
@@ -26,0 +33,5 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<stagr>ほんごく</stagr>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>this country</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-06-17 01:34:24" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think Rene's interpretation is probably right, and it's best not to try and put that as a sense.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -39,5 +38,0 @@
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<misc>&abbr;</misc>
-<gloss>country of a company's headquarters</gloss>
-</sense></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-06-17 03:42:41" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think if we add "home country" to sense 1, that should cover it.
"suzerain" fits sense 2, I think? The bit in brackets is maybe too long (or entirely unnecessary), though.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -21,0 +22 @@
+<gloss>home country</gloss>
@@ -27 +28,2 @@
-<gloss>home country (as opposed to a colony)</gloss>
+<gloss>suzerain country (from the perspective of the vassal state)</gloss>
+<gloss>colonizing country</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-06-17 04:16:43" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-06-17 07:30:53" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -37 +36,0 @@
-<stagr>ほんごく</stagr></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-15 05:08:46" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nicolas Maia</upd_name>
<upd_detl>Sometimes not used for people.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -23,0 +24 @@
+<gloss>country of origin</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-15 21:37:40" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>