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<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
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<k_ele>
<keb>誰得</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>だれとく</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<misc>&net-sl;</misc>
<s_inf>abbr. of 誰が得する?</s_inf>
<gloss>who benefits (from that)?</gloss>
<gloss>who cares?</gloss>
<gloss>who would want that?</gloss>
<gloss>who is it meant to appeal to?</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
<misc>&net-sl;</misc>
<gloss>pointless</gloss>
<gloss>of benefit to no one</gloss>
<gloss>of interest to no one</gloss>
<gloss>appealing to no one</gloss>
<gloss>extremely niche</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2013-07-12 13:32:13" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>http://www.paradisearmy.com/doujin/pasok_daretoku.htm
http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E8%AA%B0%E5%BE%97
http://imiimiimi.seesaa.net/article/221489527.html
http://imiimiimi.seesaa.net/article/221489527.html</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-07-14 23:07:38" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>Daijr</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-04-12 12:43:15" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>I might have made this an [int]</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,0 +11 @@
+<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
@@ -12 +12,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
@@ -14 +14 @@
-<s_inf>abbrevation of 誰が得するんだよ</s_inf>
+<s_inf>abbr. of 誰が得する?</s_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-04-12 18:50:56" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>Daijr</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,2 +12 @@
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<misc>&sl;</misc>
+<misc>&net-sl;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-04-13 05:32:35" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_refs>I don't think this is net-sl, heard on variety show yesterday.</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-04-14 00:38:48" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Let's see if it gets more widely used.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Daijr: ネット利用者が使う俗語で....</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-12 00:54:53" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_diff>@@ -11 +11 @@
-<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
+<pos>&exp;</pos>
@@ -14,2 +14,2 @@
-<gloss>meaningless</gloss>
-<gloss>pointless</gloss>
+<gloss>what's the point?</gloss>
+<gloss>why (would anybody do something like this)?</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-12 02:49:28" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I feel it's a bit broader than that. The tutitatu.com page has several examples which seem closer to the previous version.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://www.tutitatu.com/%E3%80%8C%E8%AA%B0%E5%BE%97%E3%80%8D%E3%81%AE%E4%BD%BF%E3%81%84%E6%96%B9%E3%82%84%E6%84%8F%E5%91%B3%E3%80%81%E4%BE%8B%E6%96%87%E3%82%84%E9%A1%9E%E7%BE%A9%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%92%E5%BE%B9%E5%BA%95%E8%A7%A3/
https://www.weblio.jp/content/%E8%AA%B0%E5%BE%97</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-12 20:32:31" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>It's used both as an expression and as an adjective. Probably best to have two senses.
A tricky one to gloss.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -14,2 +14,13 @@
-<gloss>what's the point?</gloss>
-<gloss>why (would anybody do something like this)?</gloss>
+<gloss>who benefits (from that?)</gloss>
+<gloss>who cares?</gloss>
+<gloss>who would want that?</gloss>
+<gloss>who is it meant to appeal to?</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
+<misc>&net-sl;</misc>
+<gloss>pointless</gloss>
+<gloss>of benefit to no one</gloss>
+<gloss>of interest to no one</gloss>
+<gloss>appealing to no one</gloss>
+<gloss>extremely niche</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-12 23:39:41" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Thanks. I think that's the best approach.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-05-13 10:43:28" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -14 +14 @@
-<gloss>who benefits (from that?)</gloss>
+<gloss>who benefits (from that)?</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>