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<entry id="2100712" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2761830</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>〆る</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>しめる</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&v1;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1436570">締める・3</xref>
<gloss>to total</gloss>
<gloss>to sum</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v1;</pos>
<pos>&vi;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1436570">締める・7</xref>
<gloss>to kill (fish, poultry, etc.)</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2013-01-03 01:18:13" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>split</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-01-07 03:51:01" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-02-03 07:21:02" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -13 +13 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1436570"&gt;締める・しめる・2&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1436570"&gt;締める・しめる・3&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-29 02:06:15" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nicolas Maia</upd_name>
<upd_refs>https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B1%A0%E6%AE%BA</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +16,7 @@
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;v1;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vi;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to slaughter (esp. chickens, fish)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to butcher&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to kill&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-29 03:30:37" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I am a bit iffy as it's just an aside in Wikipedia, but I did find another source.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://www.fishing-labo.net/modules/xwords/word320_1.htm</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -20,3 +20 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;to slaughter (esp. chickens, fish)&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;to butcher&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;to kill&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to kill (fish, poultry, etc.)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-29 16:33:21" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>this is probably more common as 魚を締める 
(that's what google suggested for the ibput 魚
をし)
I tgink 〆る should be merged w 締める</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-29 22:33:11" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Merging would be messy as they seem to only overlap by one or two senses. BTW, which sense of 締める is "魚を締める" related to? I'm having trouble with it.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-30 08:51:45" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I meant that "to kill" should prob. be added 
as a sense to 締める rather than 〆る. but yes, 
also that the 2 should probably be merged. I'm 
not convinced 〆る can't be used for several 
other if not all of the senses in 締める.
eg. sense 6 of 締める written as 〆る here:
https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/quest
ion_detail/q1146903691
(I'm on my phone so I haven't looked into this 
all that deeply)</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-04-19 07:16:49" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I'll add that to the 締める entry, As for remerging, i.e. undoing the 2012 split, I feel we need to be on much stronger ground to do that. The old merged entry was a mess of restrictions. For now I'd rather keep it as-is with xrefs.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>ルミナス (extra 締める entry) (鳥の首などを) wring [他] 《しめころす》.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,0 +20 @@
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1436570"&gt;締める・しめる・7&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-04-20 15:15:22" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -13 +13 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1436570"&gt;締める・しめる・3&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1436570"&gt;締める・3&lt;/xref&gt;
@@ -20 +20 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1436570"&gt;締める・しめる・7&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1436570"&gt;締める・7&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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