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jmdict 2848735 Active (id: 2098395)
<entry id="2098395" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2848735</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>のべ竿</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>延べ竿</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>のべざお</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>fishing rod with the line connected to the tip (i.e. without a reel or guides)</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>fishing rod made of a single piece of bamboo</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1579450">三味線</xref>
<gloss>one-piece shamisen neck</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2021-03-28 07:47:30" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>MarcusAseth</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>https://www.fishing-labo.net/modules/xwords/word599_1.htm
https://tsurihack.com/1618
https://kotobank.jp/word/%E5%BB%B6%E3%81%B9%E7%AB%BF-597251</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-28 08:13:06" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>GG5, ルミナス</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,2 +12,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;bamboo fishing rod&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;fishing rod that has the line connected to the tip&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;fishing rod made of a single piece of bamboo&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;jointless fishing rod&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-28 08:48:47" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>MarcusAseth</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>from the first link:延べ竿とは、ラインを通すガイドの付いていないロッドのことです。
from the second link: 延べ竿(のべ竿)とは、竿先にそのまま糸を結んで使う釣竿の総称。
the third link visually shows the difference, also the other links I've found and the images results from google image all agree that the fact it doesn't use a reel or guide and that the line is linked to the tip is what sets it apart
The second link also go on on saying: 元々は継ぎがなく、竹などのを用いた1本の釣り竿のことを指し、リールを取り付ける部分や、糸を通すガイドはありません。現在では技術の進歩とともに、伸縮できる振出タイプになっています。
Therefore I tend to believe that even the j-j entry from the dictionaries are not up to date with this item</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://fishingjapan.jp/fishing/8315
https://tsurihack.com/1618
http://hisayukitakuko.web.fc2.com/rod.jpg</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-29 00:22:09" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Maybe this works. Certainly this seems to be the modern usage.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;jointless fishing rod, usu. with no reel and the line connected to the tip&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -13 +13,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;jointless fishing rod&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-30 17:19:46" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think we can split it into two senses.
The kokugos also have a non-fishing sense.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijr
延べ竿	4500
のべ竿	6822</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;のべ竿&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -12 +15,4 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;jointless fishing rod, usu. with no reel and the line connected to the tip&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;fishing rod with the line connected to the tip (i.e. without a reel or guides)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -13,0 +20,5 @@
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1579450"&gt;三味線&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;one-piece shamisen neck&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-31 02:26:47" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>OK</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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