<entry id="2096871" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1416760</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>谷底</keb>
<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf39</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>spec2</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>たにぞこ</reb>
<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf39</re_pri>
<re_pri>spec2</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>たにそこ</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>valley floor</gloss>
<gloss>bottom of a gorge</gloss>
<gloss>bottom of a ravine</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2020-04-17 16:52:41" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>gg5, prog</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -21 +21,3 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;bottom of valley or ravine&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;valley floor&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;bottom of a gorge&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;bottom of a ravine&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-04-17 20:51:15" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-13 09:37:44" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Tyler Winn</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>たにぞこ seems way more common (unless I'm mishearing)</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://youglish.com/pronounce/谷底/japanese?</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,0 +11,3 @@
+&lt;reb&gt;たにぞこ&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;/r_ele&gt;
+&lt;r_ele&gt;
@@ -15,3 +17,0 @@
-&lt;/r_ele&gt;
-&lt;r_ele&gt;
-&lt;reb&gt;たにぞこ&lt;/reb&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-13 17:47:27" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Frazer Robinson</upd_name>
<upd_detl>The refs only say たにそこ. And I don't see where the alternative pronunciation is in the ref you gave.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>wisdom, daijr, shinemikai</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,3 +9,0 @@
-&lt;r_ele&gt;
-&lt;reb&gt;たにぞこ&lt;/reb&gt;
-&lt;/r_ele&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-13 23:49:47" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Tyler Winn</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>That link pulls up all the instances of 谷底 in youtube subtitles. Almost everyone says たにぞこ

(goes without saying, but ignore unrelated results such as 谷底平野, subtitles for videos in other languages, people who uploaded inaccurate automatically generated subtitles, etc)

I hear it as たにぞこ in tv shows as well, but I don't have refs to provide</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>スーパー大辞林
NHK 日本語発音アクセント辞典
研究社 新英和・和英中辞典
精選版 日本国語大辞典
明鏡国語辞典</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -9,0 +10,3 @@
+&lt;r_ele&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;たにぞこ&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;/r_ele&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-14 01:41:42" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>たにそこ leads たにぞこ by 87.5% to 12.5% in Aozora Bunko (but most of those examples are pretty old).
The above Sanseido article says that たにそこ is the original reading but most people now pronounce it たにぞこ ("現代の大勢も、まあ「たにぞこ」でしょう").
I have no reason to doubt that, but could it be that たにそこ is still considered more "correct" (e.g. in technical contexts)? Which reading does 日本語発音アクセント辞典 list first? I don't have access to that resource.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://dictionary.sanseido-publ.co.jp/column/sankok99
https://furigana.info/w/%E8%B0%B7%E5%BA%95</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-14 02:00:01" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Tyler Winn</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>it puts たにぞこ first</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>screenshot of 日本語発音アクセント辞典 entry for 谷底:
https://files.catbox.moe/kbibzq.png</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-14 02:08:34" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Thanks. That's good enough for me.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -11,0 +12,3 @@
+&lt;re_pri&gt;news2&lt;/re_pri&gt;
+&lt;re_pri&gt;nf39&lt;/re_pri&gt;
+&lt;re_pri&gt;spec2&lt;/re_pri&gt;
@@ -15,3 +17,0 @@
-&lt;re_pri&gt;news2&lt;/re_pri&gt;
-&lt;re_pri&gt;nf39&lt;/re_pri&gt;
-&lt;re_pri&gt;spec2&lt;/re_pri&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>