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<ent_seq>1562380</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>話者</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>わしゃ</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>speaker</gloss>
<gloss>narrator</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1921830">母語話者・ぼごわしゃ</xref>
<gloss>speaker (of a language)</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2013-08-29 09:59:57" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>suggesting deletion of 日本語話者</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +15,5 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
+<gloss>speaker (of a language)</gloss>
+</sense></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-08-29 18:50:46" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>i'm not sure that really needs to be a second sense. i'm happy with just flipping the order of the glosses in the first sense, like gg5.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,0 +12,1 @@
+<gloss>speaker</gloss>
@@ -13,1 +14,0 @@
-<gloss>speaker</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-08-29 23:03:45" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I agree. I think 英語話者/日本語話者 can stay, although they are rather obvious.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,0 +12,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1921830">母語話者・ぼごわしゃ</xref>
@@ -15,5 +16,0 @@
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
-<gloss>speaker (of a language)</gloss>
-</sense></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-09 21:47:56" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Revisiting this, I still think "speaker (of a language)" and "person who speaks (or tells a story)" should be separate senses, for
clarity. As it's now, I read it as just having the second meaning rather than both. (though the xref obviously contradicts that)</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-11 00:27:05" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>OK.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -12 +11,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1921830">母語話者・ぼごわしゃ</xref>
@@ -14,0 +14,5 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1921830">母語話者・ぼごわしゃ</xref>
+<gloss>speaker (of a language)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>