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<entry id="2093650" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2150220</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>然れば</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>されば</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&conj;</pos>
<misc>&dated;</misc>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>therefore</gloss>
<gloss>thus</gloss>
<gloss>so</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&conj;</pos>
<misc>&dated;</misc>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<s_inf>used when changing the topic</s_inf>
<gloss>well, then ...</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&int;</pos>
<misc>&dated;</misc>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>that's right</gloss>
<gloss>indeed</gloss>
<gloss>absolutely</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&conj;</pos>
<misc>&arch;</misc>
<s_inf>indicates surprise</s_inf>
<gloss>... on earth?</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2007-03-28 00:00:00" stat="A">
<upd_detl>Entry created</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-08-08 10:57:37" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nils Roland Barth</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Remove [restr=しかれば] from “well then” sense – daijr gives the same sense for both words.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijr されば (2)
話題を転ずる時に用いる。さて。</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -22,1 +22,0 @@
-&lt;stagr&gt;しかれば&lt;/stagr&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-08-09 07:24:37" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-08-01 18:40:32" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>luce</upd_name>
<upd_detl>- move archaic meaning to the end?
- should されば come before しかれば?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijs for sense restrictions
n-grams
しかれば	282
されば	6278
然れば	334</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -22,0 +23 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
@@ -25,0 +27 @@
+&lt;stagr&gt;されば&lt;/stagr&gt;
@@ -26,0 +29 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
@@ -29,0 +33 @@
+&lt;stagr&gt;されば&lt;/stagr&gt;
@@ -30,0 +35 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-09-05 22:51:25" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>AFAICT, none are actually archaic; it's just an old-fashioned word</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -8 +8 @@
-&lt;reb&gt;しかれば&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;されば&lt;/reb&gt;
@@ -11 +11 @@
-&lt;reb&gt;されば&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;しかれば&lt;/reb&gt;
@@ -16 +15,0 @@
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;arch;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-02-09 16:05:18" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think しかれば should be a separate entry. There's some overlap in meaning but しかれば isn't mentioned in the kokugos' されば entries, and vice versa. Also, the sense 2 meaning of しかれば appears to be archaic (whereas されば is merely dated).</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daij, meikyo, shinmeikai, gg5</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -14,0 +15 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;dated;&lt;/misc&gt;
@@ -16 +16,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;that being the case&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;thus&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -21,0 +23 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;dated;&lt;/misc&gt;
@@ -23 +25,11 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;well then, moving on to another topic...&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;used when changing the topic&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;well, then ...&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;stagr&gt;されば&lt;/stagr&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;int;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;dated;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;that's right&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;indeed&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;absolutely&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -28,8 +40,3 @@
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;(expressing surprise) ...on earth?&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;/sense&gt;
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;stagr&gt;されば&lt;/stagr&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;int;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;that's right&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;arch;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;indicates surprise&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;... on earth?&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-02-16 07:19:30" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I've left this sitting here until I found the time/energy to do a されば/しかれば split, but I'm finding that hard.
Of the JEs only GG5 has them, with 然れば/しかれば and されば (no kanji) entries. They don't really overlap, but for しかれば, it has a sense matching しからば.
Feel free to set up a split.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-02-16 23:49:49" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Done.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -9,3 +8,0 @@
-&lt;/r_ele&gt;
-&lt;r_ele&gt;
-&lt;reb&gt;しかれば&lt;/reb&gt;
@@ -29 +25,0 @@
-&lt;stagr&gt;されば&lt;/stagr&gt;
@@ -38 +33,0 @@
-&lt;stagr&gt;されば&lt;/stagr&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-02-17 00:43:47" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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