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jmdict 1589960 Active (id: 2077720)
<entry id="2077720" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1589960</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>書留</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf14</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>書き留め</keb>
<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>書留め</keb>
<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>かきとめ</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf14</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1344190">書留郵便</xref>
<misc>&abbr;</misc>
<gloss>registered mail</gloss>
<gloss>registered post</gloss>
<gloss>registration (of mail)</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>(putting on) record</gloss>
<gloss>writing down</gloss>
<gloss>noting down</gloss>
<gloss>registry</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2018-09-12 14:07:13" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Sense 2 was added in 2008 but it's not my refs; I only see 書き留める. Can we drop it?</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -26,2 +25,0 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vs;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-no;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -30,0 +29 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;registered post&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-09-13 00:42:55" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>The 2008 change was to split the former "writing down/putting on record/recording/making a note of/registration (of mail)" into two senses.
I agree it's almost exclusively used in the sense of "registered mail", but I think it's worth keeping the more general sense.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5: 〔制度〕 registration
Koj: 文字で記して後に残しおくこと。また、その文書。
リーダーズ+プラス - has 書留 as a gloss for both "registration" and also for "registry".</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -39,0 +40 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;registry&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-09-13 21:03:17" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Sorry, I must have missed the koj definition.
In that case, I'd make the distinction between sense 1 and 2 a bit clearer.
Sense 2 doesn't appear to be [adj-no].</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -25,0 +26,2 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-no;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1344190"&gt;書留郵便&lt;/xref&gt;
@@ -28,0 +31 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;registration (of mail)&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -32,3 +35 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vs;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-no;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;registration (e.g. of mail)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;(putting on) record&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -36,3 +37 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;putting on record&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;recording&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;making a note of&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;noting down&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-09-14 04:15:46" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Looks fine.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-08-05 08:51:13" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_diff>@@ -31,0 +32,3 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;tracked parcel&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;tracked post&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;tracking (of post)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-08-06 00:51:33" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>A substantial change like that, which possibly should be in its own sense, needs to be backed up by reference(s) and/or example(s). Please provide some. If none are forthcoming, I'll drop the edit as I don't have time to go chasing for them myself. They are not in the usual dictionaries.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-08-09 23:42:32" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>No response.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -34,3 +33,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;tracked parcel&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;tracked post&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;tracking (of post)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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