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jmdict 1000060 Active (id: 2063477)
<entry id="2063477" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1000060</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>々</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>のま</reb>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ノマ</reb>
<re_nokanji/>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&unc;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="2213370">同の字点</xref>
<gloss g_type="expl">kanji repetition mark</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2018-01-30 09:21:33" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>daijs only has this as ”のま/ノマ" - sources for the other 
readings?</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -24 +24,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;repetition of kanji (sometimes voiced)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;noma&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="expl"&gt;iteration mark used to represent repetition of the previous character&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-30 12:06:10" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Technically speaking, I don't think this has a reading. どうのじてん (同の字点) and のま are both names. The other "readings" are just ways of calling up the symbol in an IME.
We had a discussion about these types of symbols a few months back (entry 1000020) and agreed to drop readings altogether but oddly, 々 has to go in the kanji field, whereas whereas ゝ,ゞ,ヽ, and ヾ have to go in the reading field.
Therefore, in order to keep this we need a reading.
I'd go with のま/ノマ only, given that we have an actual source for it.
I don't think we need "noma" as a gloss.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -8,9 +7,0 @@
-&lt;reb&gt;くりかえし&lt;/reb&gt;
-&lt;/r_ele&gt;
-&lt;r_ele&gt;
-&lt;reb&gt;おなじ&lt;/reb&gt;
-&lt;/r_ele&gt;
-&lt;r_ele&gt;
-&lt;reb&gt;おなじく&lt;/reb&gt;
-&lt;/r_ele&gt;
-&lt;r_ele&gt;
@@ -20 +11,2 @@
-&lt;reb&gt;どうのじてん&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;ノマ&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;re_nokanji/&gt;
@@ -24,2 +16,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;noma&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss g_type="expl"&gt;iteration mark used to represent repetition of the previous character&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="2213370"&gt;同の字点&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="expl"&gt;iteration mark used to represent repetition of the previous kanji&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-31 01:53:13" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Quite happy to lose all those other dubious readings, but why not just gloss it as "kanji iteration mark"?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-01-31 04:56:24" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>i'm fine with that. however, the same argument also applies here that applied to ・  i'm pretty sure のま isn't actually a ~reading~ of this (i think this is an error by daijs).</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -17 +17 @@
-&lt;gloss g_type="expl"&gt;iteration mark used to represent repetition of the previous kanji&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="expl"&gt;kanji iteration mark&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-04-04 17:22:46" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Rob Harwood</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Changed from [n] to [unc] to match with discussion resolution in 1000020 (ゝ). Since I was trying to add this to my IME (Windows 10, Japanese language pack), I checked Jisho (using JMDICT data) to see what part of speech to use; but 'noun' just didn't seem right. Checking 1000020 (ゝ) gave [unc] which seemed at least more reasonable, if incomplete. 

Maybe there is some classification for 'special symbol' that I don't know about? Is 字点 a 'part of speech'?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>1000020 (ゝ) Discussion resolution.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15 +15 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;unc;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-04-04 23:53:53" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>The others are all "repetition" marks.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -17 +17 @@
-&lt;gloss g_type="expl"&gt;kanji iteration mark&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="expl"&gt;kanji repetition mark&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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