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<entry id="2062414" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
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<k_ele>
<keb>合弁</keb>
<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf05</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>合辦</keb>
<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>合瓣</keb>
<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ごうべん</reb>
<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf05</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<stagk>合弁</stagk>
<stagk>合辦</stagk>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
<gloss>joint management</gloss>
<gloss>pool</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<stagk>合弁</stagk>
<stagk>合瓣</stagk>
<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
<field>&bot;</field>
<gloss>gamopetalous</gloss>
<gloss>sympetalous</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2018-10-28 22:04:36" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Added sense and kanji form.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>gg5, daij</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -7,0 +8,3 @@
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;合辦&lt;/keb&gt;
@@ -19,0 +23,6 @@
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-no;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;field&gt;&amp;bot;&lt;/field&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;gamopetalous&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;sympetalous&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-10-30 00:18:25" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-03-17 08:07:15" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>dine</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>the two senses have different 旧字 and daijr, daijs, nikk all split them.  splitting</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijr, daijs, nikk</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,0 +11 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;oK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -23,6 +23,0 @@
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-no;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;field&gt;&amp;bot;&lt;/field&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;gamopetalous&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;sympetalous&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-03-18 03:32:53" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think this is a case of the tail wagging the dog. Splitting on the basis of very rarely-used 旧字 alternative surface forms is fine for the kokugos, but rather inappropriate here. 合辦 and 合瓣 should be in there somewhere, however since the chances of people actually looking it up via those kanji is very slight, I suggest making them just comments.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5 (has both senses in 合弁 entry)
合弁	380596
合辦	&lt; 20
合瓣	&lt; 20</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -8,4 +7,0 @@
-&lt;/k_ele&gt;
-&lt;k_ele&gt;
-&lt;keb&gt;合辦&lt;/keb&gt;
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;oK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -20,0 +17 @@
+&lt;s_inf&gt;also 合辦 (oK)&lt;/s_inf&gt;
@@ -23,0 +21,7 @@
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-no;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;field&gt;&amp;bot;&lt;/field&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;also 合瓣 (oK)&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;gamopetalous&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;sympetalous&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-03-25 11:22:05" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>A week on; I think I'll close this off. I've decided I don't like putting "oK" there.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -17 +17 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;also 合辦 (oK)&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;also 合辦&lt;/s_inf&gt;
@@ -24 +24 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;also 合瓣 (oK)&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;also 合瓣&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-03-25 12:05:05" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>dine</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>what about "formerly" instead?  "also" would imply they were currently used</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-03-25 23:32:41" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>This is another alternative. It's messy, but it does mean that those forms are searchable.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -8,0 +9,8 @@
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;合辦&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;oK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;合瓣&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;oK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -14,0 +23,2 @@
+&lt;stagk&gt;合弁&lt;/stagk&gt;
+&lt;stagk&gt;合辦&lt;/stagk&gt;
@@ -17 +26,0 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;also 合辦&lt;/s_inf&gt;
@@ -21,0 +31,2 @@
+&lt;stagk&gt;合弁&lt;/stagk&gt;
+&lt;stagk&gt;合瓣&lt;/stagk&gt;
@@ -24 +34,0 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;also 合瓣&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-03-26 02:37:00" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>OK. I was avoiding that option, but looking at it it's probably not so bad.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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