<entry id="2059733" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1591110</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>聞く</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>聴く</keb>
<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>きく</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&v5k;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>to hear</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v5k;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<s_inf>esp. 聴く</s_inf>
<gloss>to listen (e.g. to music)</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v5k;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<s_inf>聴く is used in legal and official contexts</s_inf>
<gloss>to ask</gloss>
<gloss>to enquire</gloss>
<gloss>to query</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v5k;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>to hear about</gloss>
<gloss>to hear of</gloss>
<gloss>to learn of</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v5k;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>to follow (advice, order, etc.)</gloss>
<gloss>to obey</gloss>
<gloss>to listen to</gloss>
<gloss>to comply with</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v5k;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>to hear (e.g. a plea)</gloss>
<gloss>to grant (a request)</gloss>
<gloss>to accept (e.g. an argument)</gloss>
<gloss>to give consideration to</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v5k;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1876050">香を聞く</xref>
<gloss>to smell (esp. incense)</gloss>
<gloss>to sample (a fragrance)</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v5k;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<s_inf>also 利く</s_inf>
<gloss>to taste (alcohol)</gloss>
<gloss>to try</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2012-08-24 13:22:36" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nils Roland Barth</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Add “smell” sense – esp. used for incense, though koj also gives “smell of sake”.
Dicts give 聞く, but 聴く is also v. common (online), while 訊く is essentially not used (5 hits, typos)</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5 daijr koj</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -37,0 +37,9 @@
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;stagk&gt;聞く&lt;/stagk&gt;
+&lt;stagk&gt;聴く&lt;/stagk&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;v5k;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vt;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1876050"&gt;香を聞く&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to smell (esp. incense)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="expl"&gt;intentional smell, sniff, esp. appreciating fragrance&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-08-29 02:32:47" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -44,1 +44,1 @@
-&lt;gloss g_type="expl"&gt;intentional smell, sniff, esp. appreciating fragrance&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to sample fragrance&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-02-13 01:41:59" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>新和英中辞典, daij</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -38,0 +38,12 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;v5k;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vt;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to learn of&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to hear about&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;v5k;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vt;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to follow (advice)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to comply with&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-02-20 05:04:09" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-07 19:41:54" stat="A">
<upd_uid>johan</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>G n-grams:
聞く	13030220
聴く	 5020959
訊く	  188642
聞い	41795997
聴い	12286330
訊い	 420750</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -9,0 +10 @@
+&lt;ke_pri&gt;spec1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
@@ -12,0 +14 @@
+&lt;ke_pri&gt;spec1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
@@ -16,0 +19 @@
+&lt;re_pri&gt;spec1&lt;/re_pri&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-07-10 01:13:33" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>i have no idea what the note on sense 3 is supposed to indicate.  that 聴く is formal?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-07-10 04:10:24" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think that's what the 2009 amendment meant.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -35 +35 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;formal 聴く&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;聴く is more formal&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-16 10:15:48" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Nicolas Maia</upd_name>
<upd_detl>Not sure if I'm using restrictions correctly, but I mean to say 訊く is only used for the 'to ask' sense.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://chigai-allguide.com/%E8%81%9E%E3%81%8F%E3%81%A8%E8%81%B4%E3%81%8F%E3%81%A8%E8%A8%8A%E3%81%8F/</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -32,0 +33 @@
+&lt;stagk&gt;訊く&lt;/stagk&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-16 21:39:20" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>That restriction means that only 訊く is used for sense 3, which isn't correct.
The only way to indicate that 訊く only applies to sense 3 is to add restrictions to all the other senses.
A cleaner solution (and what I propose) is to split 訊く out into its own entry which points here. Most of the refs don't include it as a headword, only as a "「訊く」とも書く" note.
---
I've added a couple of senses.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daij, meikyo, gg5, prog</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -21,0 +22 @@
+&lt;stagk&gt;聞く&lt;/stagk&gt;
@@ -29 +30 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;usu. 聴く&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;esp. 聴く&lt;/s_inf&gt;
@@ -33 +33,0 @@
-&lt;stagk&gt;訊く&lt;/stagk&gt;
@@ -36 +36 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;聴く is more formal&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;聴く is used in legal and official contexts&lt;/s_inf&gt;
@@ -41,0 +42 @@
+&lt;stagk&gt;聞く&lt;/stagk&gt;
@@ -43,0 +45,2 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;to hear about&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to hear of&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -45 +47,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;to hear about&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -47,0 +50 @@
+&lt;stagk&gt;聞く&lt;/stagk&gt;
@@ -50 +53,3 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;to follow (advice)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to follow (advice, order, etc.)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to obey&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to listen to&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -55 +60,9 @@
-&lt;stagk&gt;聴く&lt;/stagk&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;v5k;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vt;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to hear (e.g. a plea)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to grant (a request)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to accept (e.g. an argument)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to give consideration to&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;stagk&gt;聞く&lt;/stagk&gt;
@@ -60 +73,9 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;to sample fragrance&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to sample (a fragrance)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;stagk&gt;聞く&lt;/stagk&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;v5k;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vt;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;also 利く&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to taste (alcohol)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to try&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-17 08:06:00" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>With 6 of the 8 senses restricted to 聞く, including sense 1, I wonder if 聴く and 訊く should 
be moved out. I'll approve and reopen.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-17 08:06:21" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-17 22:30:49" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>For 聴く, I'm not sure which option is best but I definitely think 訊く would be better as a separate entry.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-02-24 00:16:52" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Splitting off 訊く and removing all those restrictions. Daijr, etc. have 聞く and 聴く merged.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,4 +11,0 @@
-&lt;k_ele&gt;
-&lt;keb&gt;訊く&lt;/keb&gt;
-&lt;ke_pri&gt;spec1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
-&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -22 +17,0 @@
-&lt;stagk&gt;聞く&lt;/stagk&gt;
@@ -42 +36,0 @@
-&lt;stagk&gt;聞く&lt;/stagk&gt;
@@ -50 +43,0 @@
-&lt;stagk&gt;聞く&lt;/stagk&gt;
@@ -59 +51,0 @@
-&lt;stagk&gt;聞く&lt;/stagk&gt;
@@ -68 +59,0 @@
-&lt;stagk&gt;聞く&lt;/stagk&gt;
@@ -76 +66,0 @@
-&lt;stagk&gt;聞く&lt;/stagk&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>