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jmdict 2123310 Active (id: 2057230)
<entry id="2057230" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2123310</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>卒なく</keb>
<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>そつなく</reb>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ソツなく</reb>
<re_nokanji/>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<pos>&adv;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="2107380">そつ・1</xref>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>without (making) any mistakes</gloss>
<gloss>flawlessly</gloss>
<gloss>accurately</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2006-12-21 00:00:00" stat="A">
<upd_detl>Entry created</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-02-12 21:55:39" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>No kanji.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>gg5
G n-grams:
そつなく	80594
ソツなく	19406</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -4,3 +3,0 @@
-&lt;k_ele&gt;
-&lt;keb&gt;卒なく&lt;/keb&gt;
-&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -9,0 +7,3 @@
+&lt;r_ele&gt;
+&lt;reb&gt;ソツなく&lt;/reb&gt;
+&lt;/r_ele&gt;
@@ -10,0 +11 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;exp;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -12,2 +13,4 @@
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;without a flaw&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="2107380"&gt;そつ・1&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="2107380"&gt;そつ・1&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;without (making) any mistakes&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;flawlessly&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-02-12 22:43:05" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-17 21:30:57" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I dropped 卒なく in 2019 but it's actually quite common and 実用日本語表現辞典 has an entry for it.
It's definitely non-standard — 卒 doesn't have a meaning that would make sense in this context — so I'm wondering if want to make a separate entry for it. Even with an iK tag, I'm not sure this is the place to record it.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>G n-grams:
卒なく	5371</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-20 21:31:09" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>it seems like it might be common enough to be worth recording.  i'm not sure if it belongs here or not.  generally i think we wouldn't add a headword if it is the only one and it is iK</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-21 07:00:28" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>This was discussed quite a bit in 2123320, which was deleted in 2019. I wrote then "そつ indeed has no kanji, but it is being used (mistakenly) with kanji. I would like people to be able to look up 卒なく, etc. and be led to the right place, and be told it's an error. I don't mind it not being here, but it may be a step too far to add it to the そつなく entry as "iK". It's the 事ム所 problem."
I think that given it's out there, and we should have it searchable, it is probably better to have it here as "iK' as have it in another entry with the same meaning and reading simply pointing here.
I'll add it, approve, then reopen.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -3,0 +4,4 @@
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;卒なく&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;iK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -8,0 +13 @@
+&lt;re_nokanji/&gt;
@@ -13,0 +19 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-21 07:00:57" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Open again.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-01-27 21:45:09" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>A week without further comment - closing.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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