<entry id="2048559" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1361870</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>新参</keb>
<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf32</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>しんざん</reb>
<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf32</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1265410">古参</xref>
<gloss>newcomer</gloss>
<gloss>tyro</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2018-11-22 05:34:05" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -16 +15,0 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-no;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-09-25 17:33:42" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +16 @@
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1265410"&gt;古参&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-09-25 17:34:54" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>not sure why adj-no was removed</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>gg5
新参の　new; 〔新任の〕 newly appointed; 〔未熟な〕 green
eij
新参の
newly arrived
come-lately
new（地位や立場などが）</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +16 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-no;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-09-26 02:02:06" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>We've been moving away from tagging normal nouns as [n,adj-no] at all (not talking about [adj-no,n] here). You could 
argue most nouns are adj-no, so it's really not necessary to point out in most cases. Case in point, I don't think the 
adj-no adds anything here, which is why I removed it.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-09-26 03:33:34" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>well, it's still on 古参.  and it makes more sense to have it.  if 新参 only referred to a person, then i would agree that the adj-no is pointless here.  but it doesn't.  daijr: 新しく仲間に加わること。また、その人。

adj-no is fine for this one</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-09-26 05:53:25" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>We distinguish between nouns where XXの is commonly adjectival and where it usually just 
possessive. I think this is clearly a case where it's adjectival.
The removal of "adj-no" tags I have supported have been in situations where the pattern is 
mainly possessive.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5 (After the noun glosses): 新参の new; 〔新任の〕 newly appointed; 〔未熟な〕 green
中辞典 (preceding the noun glosses): 新参の new; green (未熟の); newly-appointed (新任の).</upd_refs>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>