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<entry id="2045220" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1318340</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>自動</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf04</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>自働</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>じどう</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf04</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="ant" seq="1328240">手動</xref>
<gloss>automatic</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<stagk>自動</stagk>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1318390">自動詞</xref>
<field>&ling;</field>
<misc>&abbr;</misc>
<gloss>intransitive verb</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2018-06-12 19:06:33" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>自働 is in all the kokugos. Not [iK].
I don't think it's is [adj-no]. Eijiro has zero examples. It's either 自動[noun] or 自動的.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daij, koj, gg5</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,4 +9,0 @@
-&lt;k_ele&gt;
-&lt;keb&gt;自働&lt;/keb&gt;
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;iK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
-&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -21 +16,0 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-no;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -23 +18,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;automatic&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;automatic action&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;automation operation&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -27 +22,0 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-no;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-06-12 23:04:10" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-06-13 10:55:45" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Oops. Deleted the kanji by accident.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -8,0 +9,3 @@
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;自働&lt;/keb&gt;
@@ -22,0 +26 @@
+&lt;stagk&gt;自動&lt;/stagk&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-07-23 06:00:28" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Noun usage is marginal
Mostly used in compounds
There is also the very common adverb 自動で which maybe should be its own entry</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>gg5 koj daijs
G n-grams</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -20,4 +20,2 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;automatic action&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;automation operation&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;self-motion&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-f;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;automatic&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-07-23 10:03:40" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think the usage in things like 自動ドア is just a noun in a compound noun, not adjectival. But even if we decide it's adjectival, 自動 
is also commonly used as an adj-no (which I count as "noun" use)... which means normally we'd tag it as adj-no, not adj-f (because that's 
implied by adj-no). I think [adj-no,n] would be better than [adj-f]

(I see our 半自動 entry is [n,adj-f]  "semi-automatic", while 全自動 is	[adj-no] "totally automatic")</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-07-23 11:52:48" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>[adj-no] is at least better than [n]
I've never really understood what [adj-f] is,
but many of our [adj-f] entries seem to be prefixes in compound nouns rather than adjectives</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>G n-grams:
自動	19067288
自動で	 4663813
自動の	  108802
自動に	   53063
自動が	    3684</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-07-23 21:49:32" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>there's no question that this is an [n], it's just a question of whether it should be glossed that way.  i agree that it shouldn't.  also, yes, it should be adj-no (which includes adj-f)</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>meikyo
じ‐どう【自動】
[名] 機械などが自身の力で動き働くこと。オートマチック。
--
eij
自動の
形
    automatic(機械の動作などが)〔【反】manual〕
    automaticus
    horseless(車などが)
    self-acting
    self-moved
    self-moving
    self-operating</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -20 +20,3 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-f;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-no;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;xref type="ant" seq="1328240"&gt;手動&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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