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<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
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<k_ele>
<keb>万歳</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>萬歳</keb>
<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>まんざい</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1604310">漫才</xref>
<gloss>door-to-door manzai</gloss>
<gloss g_type="expl">form of comedy originally performed at people's homes by entertainers during the New Year festivities; precursor to modern day manzai</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2011-04-11 23:11:18" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>A lot of confusion between 漫才 and 万歳.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5, Daijirin, Koj</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +15,1 @@
+<gloss>door-to-door comedic duo</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-04-12 01:58:17" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Scott</upd_name>
<upd_detl>I'm also a bit confused.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>萬歳</keb></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-04-14 07:51:25" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>i think the gg5 form is best. koj seems to specify that there are indeed two of them, which makes sense given that it is supposed to be the forerunner of the other manzai:
太夫と才蔵とが連れ立ち、才蔵のいう駄洒落を太夫がたしなめるという形式で滑稽な掛合いを演ずる。...「漫才」はこれの現代化。
-
also, i find [ichi1] a bit hard to believe. almost certainly due to confusion with ばんざい. some other usage tag perhaps, but not the coveted ichi1.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>koj, daij, meikyo, gg5</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -6,1 +6,4 @@
-<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
+<ke_pri>spec2</ke_pri>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>万才</keb>
@@ -10,0 +13,1 @@
+<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
@@ -13,1 +17,1 @@
-<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
+<re_pri>spec2</re_pri>
@@ -17,1 +21,2 @@
-<gloss>strolling comic dancer</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1604310">漫才</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1604310">漫才</xref></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-04-14 07:53:25" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>added to wrong one</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -7,3 +7,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>万才</keb></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-04-14 12:05:37" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-16 06:43:34" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Scott didn't list a source for 萬歳. Even if 萬 is
kyujitai(?) for 万, is there any point in adding it to a
word of recent coinage if there's no actual evidence of it
being used?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-16 07:27:36" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>... realized it's not at all a word of recent coinage, and
that jawiki uses it.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%90%AC%E6%AD%B3</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-16 07:43:31" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>This is quite interesting.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Understanding Humor in Japan p. 52
Street Performers and Society in Urban Japan, 1600-1900:
The Beggar's Gift p 251
https://books.google.com/books?
id=ZRy8OyCnAfMC&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=manzai+new+year+door
+to+door+entertainment&source=bl&ots=T3VakyM3hd&sig=jxF9
8CvZDFz_prVV6S_ragES1yI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_rqbF9KnZ
AhUBW2MKHSbrB2QQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=manzai%20new%20year
%20door%20to%20door%20entertainment&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?
id=UaBeCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA214&lpg=PA214&dq=door-to-
door+manzai&source=bl&ots=ZPQqJjjOLQ&sig=adEmn0020TCdtyr
R1CSlsu0gWXk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjil-
uO9qnZAhUQxmMKHeMqDNoQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=door-to-
door%20manzai&f=false</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -20 +20,2 @@
-<gloss>door-to-door comedic duo</gloss>
+<gloss>door-to-door manzai</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">form of comedy orig. performed at people's homes by entertainers during the New Year festivities; precursor to modern day manzai</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-26 06:13:43" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-26 11:47:27" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>johan</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>[spec2] is also a (P) tag, so better to skip the tag
(could be downgraded to [ichi2] instead, but I think the tag is simply wrong)</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>see Rene's comments in edit #3</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -6 +5,0 @@
-<ke_pri>spec2</ke_pri>
@@ -14 +12,0 @@
-<re_pri>spec2</re_pri></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-02-26 21:40:23" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>spec2 has an interesting history.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-04-12 02:40:38" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>We don't normally use abbreviations like this outside of notes, I think.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -18 +18 @@
-<gloss g_type="expl">form of comedy orig. performed at people's homes by entertainers during the New Year festivities; precursor to modern day manzai</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">form of comedy originally performed at people's homes by entertainers during the New Year festivities; precursor to modern day manzai</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-04-12 05:04:05" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>