<entry id="1993279" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2837411</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>ごく当たり前</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>極当たり前</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ごくあたりまえ</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>absolutely normal</gloss>
<gloss>perfectly commonplace</gloss>
<gloss>taken for granted</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2018-12-04 05:29:17" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>Standard application of ごく, perhaps, but still a little tricky to translate just from the ごく and 当たり前 entries. Also very 
common.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>eij
gg5
sense 2 of 当たり前:
⯈ごく当たり前の　absolutely normal; completely □unexceptional [normal]; taken completely for granted; not strange in any way

used in 10 daij entries

g ng
ごく当たり前	84417
ごくあたりまえ	10831
極当たり前	5474
ごく当たりまえ	441
cf

とても当たり前	3911
すごく当たり前	5312
すごい当たり前	463
かなり当たり前	1339
最も当たり前	316</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-12-04 22:29:44" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>I don't see what makes the translation any more tricky than that of other ごく- terms.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>ごく普通	        623511
ごく自然	        141492</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-12-05 00:50:39" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>I would think ごく普通 would be a good 
candidate for inclusion as well (better, 
even). 
I think it might be a little tricky to 
translate this because 1) ごく is almost 
always hiragana so any novice user will 
have to guess which of our three ごく 
entries apply, 2) all our ごく entry 
currently says is "very, quite" while the 
more natural translations of ごく in this 
particular phrase are the ones above 
above. 3) Additionally, ごく is a bit of a 
strange beast for an adverb and is only 
regularly used with a very small set of 
words, chiefly as ごく普通(in eij, a gg5 
example in the ごく entry), ごくわずか 
(jitsuyo, eij, jmdict), ごく最近 (eij, 
jmdict), ごく稀 (eij, jmdict, gg5 example 
in the ごく entry), ごく一部 (jitsuyo, eij, 
jmdict), ごくために (jmdict) and ごく当たり前 
(eij). (We also have ごく小さい here (since 
2015) which incidentally is the 3rd most 
common ごく+adj-i according to NINJAL but 
only 1/6th as common as ごく当たり前 in the 
ngrams)</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-12-05 01:06:29" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>I missed ごく自然 (eij), ごく一般的 (eij) ごく少数 (eij) and probably one or two or perhaps a few others, but I still think it's quite a 
limited bunch and it wouldn't hurt us to include a couple of more of these.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>ごく普通 	623511
ごく一部 	348141
ごくわずか	150717
ごく自然 	141565
ごくまれ　	119626
ごく最近 	98555
ごく少数 	95884
ごく当たり前	84417
ごくたまに	72988
ごく一般的	69823
ごく簡単　	67695
ごく小さい	14011</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-12-05 03:21:31" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>Most importantly though: we have 70 adverbs with the gloss "very" in Jmdict but the only "very+当たり前" combos that are actually common and 
sound completely natural are "ごく当たり前" and "至極(しごく)当たり前". One of the "is it worth including tests" mentioned in policy "is it 
not what someone reasonably proficient in Japanese would come up with when trying to express the English meaning in Japanese?"</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>ごく当たり前	84417
至極当たり前	17851
しごく当たり前	3193</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-12-06 21:01:18" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>I'm quite comfortable with this as an entry. ごく普通 would be useful too.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-12-07 12:31:16" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>Surely this is exp?</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -13,0 +14 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;exp;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-12-07 13:18:59" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>Adv+adj so I guess so, though our other ごく... entries are all over the place.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>