<entry id="1993203" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1587040</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>言う</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf01</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>云う</keb>
<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>謂う</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>いう</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf01</re_pri>
<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ゆう</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&v5u;</pos>
<gloss>to say</gloss>
<gloss>to utter</gloss>
<gloss>to declare</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v5u;</pos>
<gloss>to name</gloss>
<gloss>to call</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<stagk>言う</stagk>
<pos>&v5u;</pos>
<gloss>to go (e.g. "the alarm went ping")</gloss>
<gloss>to make a noise</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2012-12-07 01:50:18" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>winnie</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>It might be worth adding another meaning to represent the use of the word to show that an object is making a noise -- which isn't really "to say" -- as in お湯が沸いてやかんがピーピーいっている. I don't know if "to make a sound" or "to make a noise" quite works.  Perhaps you have a better idea? :-)</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-12-09 23:51:12" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>GG5 has that as a sense.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -34,0 +34,5 @@
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;v5u;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to go (e.g. the alarm went "ping")&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to make a noise&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-02-13 02:20:00" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -32,1 +32,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;to call (i.e. to give a name)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to name&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to call&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-02-14 22:03:37" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-03-31 12:23:35" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>daijs
the restriction is merely an educated guess.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -28,0 +29,2 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;to utter&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to declare&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -35,0 +38 @@
+&lt;stagk&gt;言う&lt;/stagk&gt;
@@ -37 +40 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;to go (e.g. the alarm went "ping")&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to go (e.g. "the alarm went ping")&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-04-01 00:52:26" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Seems reasonable.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-07 18:01:31" stat="A">
<upd_uid>johan</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>G n-grams:
云う	1697529</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+&lt;ke_pri&gt;spec1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
@@ -20,0 +22 @@
+&lt;re_pri&gt;spec1&lt;/re_pri&gt;
@@ -24,0 +27 @@
+&lt;re_pri&gt;spec1&lt;/re_pri&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-11-30 03:08:50" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>daijs
〔 (1) 中世ごろから終止形・連体形の「いう」が融合して「ゆう」と発音されるようになり、「ゆ」を語幹として活用させた形も生じた。現代でも話し言葉
では終止形・連体形は「ゆう」と発音されるが、「いう」と書く。</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -30,0 +31 @@
+&lt;s_inf&gt;pronounced as ゆう but written as いう&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-11-30 22:32:53" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Couldn't this be confusing? 言いました and 言えば are said as they're written. 言った can be said both ways.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-12-01 05:54:52" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I doubt it's needed anyway. We don't usually note irregular pronuncioations.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-12-01 08:18:25" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Good point. This is more in line with the 
note in daijs. I certainly don't think the 
note HAS to be there (so feel free to 
reject/remove) but I do think it's a point 
many beginners aren't aware of.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -31 +31 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;pronounced as ゆう but written as いう&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;pronounced as ゆう in dictionary form but written as いう&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-12-06 21:41:03" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Best omitted. We don't tell people how to say ます/です.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -31 +30,0 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;pronounced as ゆう in dictionary form but written as いう&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>