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jmdict 1342540 Rejected (id: 1991559)
<entry id="1991559" stat="R" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1342540</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>始め</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf17</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>初め</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>はじめ</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf17</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n-t;</pos>
<pos>&n-adv;</pos>
<gloss>beginning</gloss>
<gloss>start</gloss>
<gloss>outset</gloss>
<gloss>opening</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<s_inf>esp. 初め</s_inf>
<gloss>first (in line, etc.)</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<s_inf>esp. 始め</s_inf>
<gloss>origin</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<s_inf>esp. 始め; as 〜を始め, 〜を始めとして, etc.</s_inf>
<gloss>such as ...</gloss>
<gloss>not to mention ...</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&adv;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1307530">始めは</xref>
<gloss>at first</gloss>
<gloss>in the beginning</gloss>
<gloss>originally</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2011-07-11 20:15:12" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>form with more usage tags first (also first in koj, gg5, daijs)</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>mostly meikyo, also koj, daij, gg5, prog, nc</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -4,4 +4,0 @@
-&lt;k_ele&gt;
-&lt;keb&gt;初め&lt;/keb&gt;
-&lt;ke_pri&gt;ichi1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
-&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -13,0 +9,4 @@
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;初め&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_pri&gt;ichi1&lt;/ke_pri&gt;
@@ -21,0 +21,1 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n-t;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -22,1 +23,1 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n-t;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;esp. 初め&lt;/s_inf&gt;
@@ -25,0 +26,11 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;outset&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;opening&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;esp. 初め&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;first (in line, etc.)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;esp. 始め&lt;/s_inf&gt;
@@ -27,0 +39,7 @@
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;esp. 始め; as 〜を始め, 〜を始めとして, etc.&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;such as ...&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;not to mention ...&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-07-11 23:46:36" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -23,1 +23,0 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;esp. 初め&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2011-07-13 07:03:41" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-10-26 04:48:02" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>See proposed 2825841. How's this as an alternative?</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -44,0 +45,8 @@
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;usu. as た-verb+のをはじめ, んをはじめ, etc.&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;after&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;following&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;starting with&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-11-09 02:48:49" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>i'm not convinced sense 5 is necessary.  the note on sense 4 doesn't suggest that it is the ~only~ implied meaning when を is used.  ~を~に is a common usage that i don't think needs to be spelled out entry by entry.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-11-10 06:56:58" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>OK. It's really an application of sense 1.
I've added のをはじめ and んをはじめ to the special text-glossing files.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -45,8 +44,0 @@
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;
-&lt;s_inf&gt;usu. as た-verb+のをはじめ, んをはじめ, etc.&lt;/s_inf&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;after&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;following&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;starting with&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-11-24 13:46:21" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>Used in the same manner as 始めは</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -44,0 +45,7 @@
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adv;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1307530"&gt;始めは&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;at first&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;in the beginning&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;originally&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-11-25 07:14:31" stat="R">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Thank you for the amendment suggestion. I'm going to reject it on account of there being no references provided, and I'm not 
immediately seeing anything in daij/gg5 I recognize as having this meaning. I also feel like this is probably already covered by sense 
1 anyway. Feel free to give it another go while providing references/explanation why this isn't adequately covered by sense 1.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>

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