<entry id="1990977" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1225850</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>義弟</keb>
<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf25</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>spec2</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ぎてい</reb>
<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf25</re_pri>
<re_pri>spec2</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>おとうと</reb>
<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>brother-in-law (spouse's younger brother or younger sister's husband)</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&rare;</misc>
<gloss>younger stepbrother</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2017-09-29 22:32:00" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Annamaria</upd_name>
<upd_detl>brother by law, non blood related brother</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -23,0 +24 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;younger step-brother&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-09-30 21:03:03" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>"Step-brother" means something different.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -22 +21,0 @@
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="1581930"&gt;弟&lt;/xref&gt;
@@ -24 +22,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;younger step-brother&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-09-30 22:08:37" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Annamaria</upd_name>
<upd_detl>In english, but Japanese uses the same word to mean both things.
義 having the meaning of 'by law' and a step sibling is still a sibling by marriage in a way.

also see
http://www.edrdg.org/jmdictdb/cgi-bin/entr.py?svc=jmdict&amp;sid=&amp;e=1046429
http://www.edrdg.org/jmdictdb/cgi-bin/entr.py?svc=jmdict&amp;sid=&amp;e=1046430
http://www.edrdg.org/jmdictdb/cgi-bin/entr.py?svc=jmdict&amp;sid=&amp;e=1154065
http://www.edrdg.org/jmdictdb/cgi-bin/entr.py?svc=jmdict&amp;sid=&amp;e=1154064</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://kotobank.jp/word/%E7%BE%A9%E5%BC%9F-474878

-second definition</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -22,0 +23 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;younger stepbrother&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-10-08 11:39:40" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>See 2010700. We thrashed this around in late 2010 and eventually agreed that the Japanese use it for our "step....".</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-10-09 12:11:14" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Annamaria</upd_name>
<upd_detl>Would it be a good idea to just add a non-blood-related etc. gloss to all the 義etc. family member entries?
Because that's basically the second definition on the kotobank page, and it's the common thread between the different english glosses.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-10-10 03:43:59" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I'm not sure it's that good an idea. See the results from the EJs above. None of them use 義姉, 義妹, etc. Only one uses the 義 kanji, and that's in the vague "義理の姉". 
I think we have to reflect that 義姉 means primarily "sister-in-law". 
I'm suggesting that "step.." goes in a sense of its own, and tagged so that people won't think it's the usual term.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>"stepsister" in various EJs:
リーダーズ+プラス: 継父[継母]の娘
新英和大辞典: 継(まま)父[母]の連れ子, (父[母]の再婚による)義理の姉[妹]
新英和中辞典: まま姉妹《まま父[母]の前配偶者との間の女子
ルミナス英和辞典: stepparent の(連れ子である)娘</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -22,0 +23,4 @@
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;obsc;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-10-15 05:00:54" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>No further comments.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-11-16 12:26:15" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>More accurate. It's possible to have a 義弟 who is older than oneself.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijr, gg5</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -22 +22 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;younger brother-in-law&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;brother-in-law (spouse's younger brother or younger sister's husband)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-11-16 19:28:43" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>