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<k_ele>
<keb>座繰り</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>座ぐり</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>座刳り</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>坐繰り</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>座繰</keb>
<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>坐繰</keb>
<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ざぐり</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<stagk>座繰り</stagk>
<stagk>坐繰り</stagk>
<stagk>座繰</stagk>
<stagk>坐繰</stagk>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>reeling by hand (esp. silk)</gloss>
<gloss>hand filature</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&vs;</pos>
<s_inf>esp. 座ぐり</s_inf>
<gloss>counter sinking (making conical depression so screw-heads don't protrude above surface)</gloss>
<gloss>spot facing (machining a flat space for bolt head, etc.)</gloss>
<gloss>spotfacing</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<s_inf>esp. 座刳り</s_inf>
<gloss>hollowing out (e.g. wooden chair seat, scallop pattern on roof, etc.)</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2006-09-06 00:00:00" stat="A">
<upd_detl>Entry created</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-02-11 22:24:11" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>WWW hits confirm 座ぐり is common for this term. Eijiro has "座繰りをした : counter sunk" and there are a few WWW images for 座繰り showing countersinking, but it's in no refs and I suspect it's a typo; hence the "iK".</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -4,0 +5,3 @@
+<keb>座ぐり</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -5,0 +9,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>座繰り</keb>
+<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-02-12 05:31:03" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>there may be some difference in nuance that i'm not catching, but i think these entries should be merged (perhaps with a restriction, since it doesn't appear that 座刳り can apply to 'hand filature')</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijs ざぐり 【座繰り／×坐繰り】
1) 座って繭から糸をたぐりながら糸枠に巻き取ること。また、その道具。
...
3) ボルトや小ねじ類を締める際、すわりを安定させるために、穴の周辺の上面を平らに加工すること。
koj also has both these senses merged:
ボルト・小ねじ類を使用する場合、その頭が平らに締め付けられるように、孔の周囲の上面を円形に平滑に削ること。
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are the senses above the same as the one in daijr for 座刳り?
木ねじ・ボルトなどの頭を材面より沈めるため，部材にへこみをつけること。</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-02-13 03:23:49" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Implementing the merge as Rene proposed. The "esp." notes are based on what I am seeing in Google images, where 座ぐり is almost all about counter sinking, and 座刳り is almost all about hollowing out pieces of wood. No dictionary that I can see has this latter meaning.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>KOj, Daijr, GG5
http://www.haburikobo.com/knowledge/k0025.htm
http://k-woodcraft.seesaa.net/category/6159860-1.html (1/2 down)
http://www.k-buhinkako.com/tuikakou-08.html (Part 4)</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>座繰り</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -11,2 +14 @@
-<keb>座繰り</keb>
-<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>
+<keb>坐繰り</keb>
@@ -17,0 +20,2 @@
+<stagk>座繰り</stagk>
+<stagk>坐繰り</stagk>
@@ -19 +23,12 @@
-<gloss>counter sink (e.g. so screw-heads don't protrude above surface)</gloss>
+<gloss>reeling by hand (esp. silk)</gloss>
+<gloss>hand filature</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<s_inf>esp. 座ぐり</s_inf>
+<gloss>counter sinking (e.g. so screw-heads don't protrude above surface)</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<s_inf>esp. 座刳り</s_inf>
+<gloss>hollowing out (e.g. wooden chair seat, bowl, etc.)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-02-13 04:43:57" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>becomes somewhat ugly with the third sense added, but it seems appropriate
does the third sense really apply to bowls? the 座 makes me think that it is specific to the seats of chairs.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-02-13 05:39:39" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>The bowl didn't check out properly. Quite a few roof examples.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>http://www.kawarakou.com/works/works4jinja/works4-2.html (scalloped shape along the edge of a roof)
http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/lavie550/7688318.html (hollowing in a rifle butt)
http://horatio-hanna.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2010/07/shoe-trees.html (shoe lasts)</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -34 +34 @@
-<gloss>hollowing out (e.g. wooden chair seat, bowl, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>hollowing out (e.g. wooden chair seat, scallop pattern on roof, etc.)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-02-13 08:40:55" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-02-21 02:18:31" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>More discussion on translators' FB page. Plenty of WWW examples of 座ぐり being used for both countersinking and spotfacing. Sense could be split.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotface
FB discussion
リーダーズ+プラス: "spot-face 座ぐりする..."</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -27,0 +28 @@
+<pos>&vs;</pos>
@@ -29 +30,3 @@
-<gloss>counter sinking (e.g. so screw-heads don't protrude above surface)</gloss>
+<gloss>counter sinking (making conical depression so screw-heads don't protrude above surface)</gloss>
+<gloss>spot facing (machining a flat space for bolt head, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>spotfacing</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-02-21 02:47:51" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-12-24 16:37:33" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Scott</upd_name>
<upd_refs>http://kotobank.jp/word/%E5%BA%A7%E7%B9%B0-68835 (世界大百科事典 第２版)</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +16,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>座繰</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -21,0 +25 @@
+<stagk>座繰</stagk></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-12-30 04:01:19" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>i don't trust their okurigana</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>and in koj</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -17,0 +18,5 @@
+<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>坐繰</keb>
+<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>
@@ -25,0 +31 @@
+<stagk>坐繰</stagk></upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>