Reference Dictionaries (Was: [edict-jmdict] About entries containing "with negative")

[Jim Breen <jimbreen@*********>]

A couple of reference-dictionary-related matters:

On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 21:11, 'Zarlan .' zarlan@spray.se
[edict-jmdict] <edict-jmdict@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Rene referred to GG5 (Kenkyusha&#8217s New Japanese-English Dictionary fifth edition, 2003. Quite old,
> I'd say), as the "bible", when it comes to Japanese-English Dictionaries ...but that is mainly due to the
> fact that there is no competition (or can anyone point to a J-E dictionary of a similar size?), and either
> way, they are not infallible.

The 新和英大辞典第５版 is not actually static. Kenkyusha updates it, mainly to
remove errors and improve
the wordings. I've been able to get them to remove a couple of 変換ミスs
and I've noticed other
changes. They also have a series of additional entries and sub-entries
on their "KOD" website,
which they label "ＫＯＤ追加語彙".

> Just look at this clear example of an obvious error, in its sister
> publication (Kenkyusha's New English-Japanese Dictionary sixth edition, 2002)
> "hip１ /hı́p/→
> n.
> 1a 腰《人または哺乳動物の足と体のつながる突き出た部分で, 骨盤・大腿骨部分を含む; ⇒body 挿絵》; 尻, ヒップ."
> Now I think it is safe to assume that we all know that the English word
> "hip" (in the sense of the part of the body), doesn't refer to 尻 (Shiri. Butt. Arse. Rump. Buttocks).
> 骨盤 isn't wrong, to be fair, but all the rest is just plain absurd.
> Even the more explanatory bit, still manages to be totally wrong (the bit about
> it being exclusive to mammals, being the most wrong and inexplicable part of the
> whole entry)

The Kenkysha 新英和大辞典 does indeed give 尻 as a translation of "hip".
In matching those two terms it's not alone, both the 新和英中辞典 and
ルミナス和英辞典 give "hips" as translations of 尻, and the 大辞林 entry
for ヒップ gives 尻 as its primary meaning (it adds "また、その寸法").

Cheers

Jim

-- 
Jim Breen
Adjunct Snr Research Fellow, Japanese Studies Centre, Monash University
http://www.jimbreen.org/
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