Re: Reference Dictionaries (Was: [edict-jmdict] About entries containing "with negative")

[Jim Breen <jimbreen@*********>]

On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 05:05, 'Zarlan .' zarlan@spray.se
[edict-jmdict] <edict-jmdict@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >Well, the Kenkyusha site labels it as "新和英大辞典第５版".
>
> Really? Where? I can't find any mention of "第５版", anywhere at, https://kod.kenkyusha.co.jp/service/
> Is there some other site, that you're talking about? I can't seem to find any.

That site, but you need to log to a (paid) subscription to see the
individual dictionaries covered. That label (above) is on entries
displayed from the 和英大辞典. The page at:
https://kod.kenkyusha.co.jp/service/guide/usage.jsp  has a list of the
dictionaries covered towards the bottom.

> >As I mentioned earlier, there are corrections made to the "第５版" in the online version.
>
> You could say that 第５版 contains many corrections made to the 第4版...

But I didn't. The corrections I mentioned were made to the 第５版. A
comparison of the printed/CD ediction and the current online version
confirms this.

> >Kenkyusha cites 新和英大辞典第５版 and ＫＯＤ追加語彙 as distinct sources. So should we.
>
> Isn't that exactly what I said?

Well what appeared in the email I received was:
"As it is a separate entity, if you cite from the website version you
should not refer to it as GG5 or 新和英大辞典第５版, but as KOD
or Kenkyusha Online Dictionary ...or 研究社オンライン・ディクショナリー."

I have no problem with using GG5 as shorthand for
新和英大辞典第５版.

Cheers

Jim

-- 
Jim Breen
Adjunct Snr Research Fellow, Japanese Studies Centre, Monash University
http://www.jimbreen.org/
http://nihongo.monash.edu/