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I don't think "flirt" should lead.

OK

I think it's already covered by 
[2][n,vs,vi]
  tea break; teatime

I'm not convinced "sometimes used as a pickup line" is needed

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I'm not entirely opposed to the idea, but I'm not really sure what's at stake. The form isn't completely hidden, just moved to a note.

We've used this style on quite a few entries recently. See 1164780 (一挺), 1167270 (一旒), 1299600 (杜鵑花), 1260670 (因・もと), 1588320 (撮す), etc.

Since this is a policy decision that affects many entries, it would be best to have this discussion on github or the mailing list.

i don't think it's a good idea to hide a kanji form that is in multiple references and in absolute numbers pretty common
imo it's better to split it off and cross-reference it

I think this is OK. I've reindexed the sentences to match.

this entry previously had 5 senses
採り上げる is definitely not [sK] as it's present in sankoku, meikyo, shinkoku, obunsha
sankoku does have a separate entry for 採り上げる, so maybe we could follow their lead and split it (and cross-reference it here)
i think that having "to adopt (e.g. a proposal)" and "to report (news)" in the same sense is confusing, they're pretty different things
it's true that the (current) 3 and 4 senses can be merged as they're basically the same thing which would result in 6 senses

Removing [ichi1] from the hidden 取上げる form.

I think this is OK. I've reindexed the sentences to match.

this entry previously had 5 senses
採り上げる is definitely not [sK] as it's present in sankoku, meikyo, shinkoku, obunsha
sankoku does have a separate entry for 採り上げる, so maybe we could follow their lead and split it (and cross-reference it here)
i think that having "to adopt (e.g. a proposal)" and "to report (news)" in the same sense is confusing, they're pretty different things
it's true that the (current) 3 and 4 senses can be merged as they're basically the same thing which would result in 6 senses

Of all the references I checked (JES & Kokugos) only Meikyo mentioned 採り上げる. GG5 has sense 2 for 取り上げる so that "esp." looks rather doubtful. Also, the JEs have 4 senses which I think works well. I think the 7 senses is overdoing it.
I'd be OK with making 採り上げる [sK], goin back to 4 senses, and stripping out all the notes and restrictions.

Little use.

Zero n-grams. Very few web hits. Not in the refs.
Wikipedia has 接敵機動 but this probably isn't worth having either.

Hydrogen bombs as well. "A-bomb" as a verb sounds quite slangy to me.

Hydrogen bombs as well.

被曝者 split into new entry 2860170

It's probably better as two senses.
I think 被曝者 should be a separate entry. 被爆者 wouldn't be used for victims of the Chernobyl disaster.

Less than 20% mazegaki form -> sK

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Possibly not, but GG5 adds "〔目の〕".

Not sure if the part in parentheses is needed.

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Judging from examples on the web, it's always intransitive.

I don't think the x-ref is needed/helpful.

The refs don't indicate that it's an abbreviation.

I think it's more an abbreviation of ミッドセンチュリーモダン.

OK. I'll align ターレ.

The English term refers to forklifts and doesn't have any overlap with the Japanese 「ターレットトラック」.

Turret truck is very obscure, and (to most) very confusing and misleading.

On my phone, can't find the nakaguro.

Brian, please, several members of the editorial team have repeatedly asked you to be more brief in your edit summaries. I'm not reading what you wrote this time but rejecting it based only on the quality of the edit itself. We don't include long notes like the one you've suggested on individual English glosses, and while it's true we have several entries mentioning 2ch that should probably be updated, but 2ch as a site doesn't exist under that name any longer, and has splintered as well into more than 1 site IIRC.

Opening note: 夏厨, while seeming to have originated in the Japanese 2channel/2chan/2ch community,  appears to be in more broad use then "summerfag" is in English, probably because it is inherently less offensive.  "summerfag" is largely restricted to  a single website/community(4chan.org).  Outside of participation in, or discussion of, the website 4chan.org(and some derivatives, I guess), "summerfag" is not an appropriate gloss, and risks being inadvertently both hyper-offensive and not-understood. Unfortunately, I know of no other good English glosses, besides an [expl].

My first ref is an academic text that indexes it as "summerfag (4chan slang)". 

See also, for example:
site:twitter.com "summerfag" 
vs. 
site:reddit.com "summerfag" 

Twitter returns almost nothing.  Reddit returns lots of results, almost entirely 4chan-related groups.  I have included the first non-4chan reddit response, and it was a commenter referencing 4chan.

Then compare with the Japanese term below, which has thousands of hits on twitter (I've removed the username 夏厨系 from searches...):
site:twitter.com  夏厨 -夏厨系 

Clearly not the same in tenor.  It seems it could even be used light-heartedly in Japanese, and may even be used in the cooking/kitchen sense of 厨. "a cook for the summer". (maybe a sense[2], not sure)

The respective communities (2chan and 4chan) are large enough that I think keeping this entry has merit, but at the same time this use of "fag" without very-relevant provisos is a problem.  (this single entry was used to justify the addition of "fag" to the entry 厨, and I'm not so sure that's consistent with the general strength of 厨 in Japanese)

One of the ~6 twitter results, for example, is Japanese and shares an exciting English discovery about "fag". We don't seem to be their source, but this is the kind of thing I thing I would like to see us take more consideration of.

https://twitter.com/BlackHandMaiden/status/813193129973006339
fagは○○厨という意味でも使うらしいね summerfagとかで夏厨 fagはfaggotの略で政治的に正しくない表現のアレです アレ
among the replies, it's a 2chan term: まあ2ch用語みたいなもんですからのう

Again, we don't include notes like the one suggested that are usage notes on the English gloss rather than the Japanese word. The point I was making about 2ch is that it's splintered into 5ch and a new 2ch (at a different url from the original) which apparently isn't half as popular as 5ch,so it doesn't really make sense to speak about 2ch any longer.
Please, don't resubmit basically the same edit upon rejection accompanied by another wall of text.

Thank you for the feedback Marcus.  I have definitely gotten comments over time, which I certainly would not deny.  Very recent comments, outside of one notable one, I have not caught up with yet.  So if there is a flood of perturbed messages, I just haven't seen those yet. That's on me.

Because "fag" is a touchy term that risks offense (why I was trying to edit), I'll try again with something brief:  "summerfag" is a term limited to a specific community, 4chan, which has a practice of appending "fag" to a lot of terms.  The ref gives 20+ examples. ie.
newfag (new member)
oldfag (long-time member)
samefag (someone who replies to their own posts anonymously)
....

These are generally limited to this community, and not a reflection of general English or even general [net-sl]. This is [4chan-sl].  夏厨 seems quite a bit more common in general use outside of 2channel than "summerfag" outside of 4chan. Since "fag" risks extreme offense, and since "summerfag" is not well known outside of a specific community, I think warning flags are appropriate. 

2ch/2chan/2channel, whatever. Googling "2channel" will work.  I didn't realize this was in other entries, any version is fine with me.

Merging 2860132 submission.

I don't think it does imply a lack of ambiguity, but in case it helps I've made the glosses a bit broader.

Thank you for the feedback on eijiro.  I know I see questionable errors there all the time.  It's true, if eijiro agrees with the specific real-world encounter I'm looking at, I tend not to triple-check, and sometimes I should.  I did concede there isn't *actually* a second sense, this is more of a pragmatic suggestion.  For example, without context, what does this mean:

心を開く方法

The current glosses suggest this is unambiguous. It's your own heart. English speakers have no intuition that there are two opposing interpretations of this phrase. A second sense would make this clear.

This ordering seems more common than our intuitions would suggest.  If you search *just* google news for just for the string "相手の心を開く" there are 18 pages of actual results.  regular google yields an infinite scroll.

My suggested [2] is the form I encountered it in the wild, so I have a bias.  All I can say is that I believe a sense[2], or some other way in sense[1] to suggest the ambiguity, would be helpful to learners.

I'm not seeing two senses here; more a broad use of the expression.
Be wary of too much reliance on Eijiro. We warn against it in the editorial policy page. It's OK for confirmation.

We don't usually do notes like I've added, but maybe you can think of something to clarify explicitly

[1] looks like something you do to your own heart, and that's correct.  But you can also 開く someone else's heart in Japanese, which is not something you can readily do in English.  If I say "open up someone else's heart", that sounds to me like surgery.

Case-in-point, see how this translator reverses the structure for an English audience:
(Context: running errands for stubborn old woman before she will help them): 頑張っておばあさんの心を開こうか 
Let's do what we can to get her to open up to us

While these are obviously variants of the same sense, I think doing this as one sense in English would be confusing.

Eijiro has some other potential glosses for other people's hearts that you might be interested in glossing over.

Likely more common, though not a lot to go off of.

Not sure which reading is more common.

さいくつじょう in GG5.

Came up in a Tanaka sentence edit.

OK. May as well drop it.

IDK, just felt it moight be appropriate to indicate it's kind of non-standard. But either way is fine by me.

We don't typically use [col] on on-mim terms. Is it needed here?

glosses from どばどば

Might have other meanings. Should maybe not be an entry...

Merging with  2842697 (釣太鼓).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_km/h_zone

Stumbled on while looking at 厨.

"ハピエン厨" has 0 ngrams but a mountain of google results, which suggests a significant softening/popularization of the suffix 厨 in the last decade.  I will double back to that.

I wasn't saying that Brian made a poor case, only that this seems rather A+B. I think the problem is that our current entry for 厨 somewhat inadequate. The Nicovideo encyclopedia describes two etymologies for 〜厨 (中防 and 中毒) and mentions that the latter is sometimes used self-referentially. I'm not fussed about keeping this entry, but it might be mostly redundant if we improved our entry for 厨. If anyone is interested in researching it more, that might be a good entry to work on.

I'm not sure it's needed either, but it's harmless, and possibly useful.

Brian made a poor case but it is very common on twitter, see https://twitter.com/search?q=ハピエン厨&src=typed_query&f=live

厨 is a productive suffix, and we already have an entry for it. I'm not sure this entry is necessary now that we also have an entry for ハピエン.

What I'm seeing on Twitter is mainly self-referential. Even if it's meant self-deprecatingly, I don't think the derog tag is justified.

I think "customer" works for geisha as well.

Not that common, but the meaning is not obvious.

I think it's OK as a gloss.

It's not really a term used in English. Seems to be largely confined to shogi.