@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>さくら肉</keb>

link to sashimi

@@ -12,0 +12,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1918480">馬刺</xref>

十進	19598
十進の	170
十進な	No matches

@@ -17,2 +17 @@
-<pos>&adj-na;</pos>
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
@@ -21 +19,0 @@
-<gloss>deciam</gloss>

GG5,新和英中辞典

Merging in １０進. The じゅっしん is from an email from an NSJ. Plenty of WWW support.

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>１０進</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -10,0 +13,3 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>じゅっしん</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -12,1 +18,3 @@
-<gloss>decimal system</gloss>
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
+<gloss>decimal</gloss>
+<gloss>denary</gloss>

Merging.

@@ -6,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>１０進法</keb>

Thanks for going over this. It's a rather fine line in places.

and i think that かみしも has to remain separate too...

@@ -12,3 +12,0 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>かみしも</reb>
-</r_ele>
@@ -24,1 +21,0 @@
-<stagr>うえした</stagr>
@@ -27,1 +23,1 @@
-<xref type="see">上下になる</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2626440">上下になる</xref>

so i think three entries may be best rather than a full merge.  but i can go either way
-
上下[じょうげ]
[1][n]
top and bottom;high and low;above and below;upper and lower ends;up and down
[2][n,vs]
going up and down; rising and falling; fluctuating
[3][n]
upper and lower classes;ruler and ruled
[4][n]
first and second volumes
[5][n,vs]
going and coming back
-
上下[うえした,かみしも]
[1][n]
top and bottom;up and down;high and low;above and below;upper and lower ends
[2][adj-no,n][うえした][see=上下になる]
upside-down
-
上下[しょうか,じょうか]
[1][n,vs]
top and bottom;up and down;high and low;above and below;upper and lower ends
[1][n][しょうか]
upper and lower classes;ruler and ruled

@@ -12,0 +12,3 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>かみしも</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -14,0 +17,2 @@
+<gloss>top and bottom</gloss>
+<gloss>up and down</gloss>
@@ -15,4 +20,2 @@
-<gloss>up and down</gloss>
-<gloss>top and bottom (of clothes)</gloss>
-<gloss>unloading and loading</gloss>
-<gloss>praising and blaming</gloss>
+<gloss>above and below</gloss>
+<gloss>upper and lower ends</gloss>
@@ -21,0 +24,2 @@
+<stagr>うえした</stagr>
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
@@ -22,0 +27,1 @@
+<xref type="see">上下になる</xref>

i was looking at this entry the other day trying to figure out how to handle it, but it seemed like too much of a pain to deal with at the time... i'll look at it again some time this afternoon

I see we have separate entries for 上下: うえした, じょうげ and しょうか (and かみしも, but that's a bit different...) GG5 also has じょうか. It (GG5) says じょうげ, しょうか and じょうか are the same (it makes じょうげ the primary one) so I think some merging is in order. We at present have うえした and じょうげ with the same meaning, so a largish merge may be in order.
Daijirin generally has じょうげ as a meaning, but seems to have some subtle differences between them.
My inclination is to have a grand merge of all of them, with some sense restrictions and "esp. ..." as appropriate.

sankoku 8:
  〘服〙上着と〈ズボン／スカート〉の、ひとそろい。ツーピース。（↔三つぞろい）
meikyo 2:
  衣服で、上着とズボンで一組みになっているもの。「背広の━」
shinsen 10:
  上着とズボン。

Adding a new clothing sense described by the refs above

@@ -26,0 +27 @@
+<pos>&vi;</pos>
@@ -33,0 +35 @@
+<pos>&vi;</pos>
@@ -44,0 +47,6 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<field>&cloth;</field>
+<gloss>top and bottom</gloss>
+<gloss>two-piece (outfit)</gloss>

See comments on 1352700.

gg5, meikyo, etc.

@@ -18,0 +18,8 @@
+<gloss>top and bottom</gloss>
+<gloss>high and low</gloss>
+<gloss>above and below</gloss>
+<gloss>upper and lower ends</gloss>
+<gloss>up and down</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
@@ -19,4 +27,18 @@
-<gloss>high and low</gloss>
-<gloss>up and down</gloss>
-<gloss>unloading and loading</gloss>
-<gloss>praising and blaming</gloss>
+<gloss>going up and down</gloss>
+<gloss>rising and falling</gloss>
+<gloss>fluctuating</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&vs;</pos>
+<gloss>going and coming back</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>upper and lower classes</gloss>
+<gloss>ruler and ruled</gloss>
+<gloss>the government and the people</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>first and second volumes</gloss>

link to closely related word (ちゃぶ台)

@@ -19,0 +19,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1953570">ちゃぶ台</xref>

Link to syn

@@ -16,0 +16,2 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1298490">桜肉</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1298490">桜肉</xref>

OK

@@ -39,0 +40,9 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<stagr>まぐろ</stagr>
+<stagr>マグロ</stagr>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&sl;</misc>
+<misc>&vulg;</misc>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<gloss>someone unconscious due to alcohol</gloss>

https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q13494123
市場に並んだ冷凍マグロみたいに、ころがったまま、自分からは何もせず、動かないこと。

広辞苑: 船酔いして横になっている人。（漁師言葉） (closest hit in a real dictionary)

* ２，３人、酔いつぶれた者が、まぐろの死体となってるなか、彼女、ヴィシェスは、手すりによりかかり、夜風に当たっていた。
* 酔いつぶれマグロ状態の妹にイタズラしてたら
* みんなマグロになってるしお開きにしようよ。 (line spoken at a hanami)

I've seen this refer to people unconscious due to alcohol a few times

Yech.

somewhat common English term added, ref: urbandictionary

@@ -37,0 +38 @@
+<gloss>starfish</gloss>

restoring restriction--rather certain it doesn't apply to しび.

@@ -31,0 +31,2 @@
+<stagr>まぐろ</stagr>
+<stagr>マグロ</stagr>

@@ -36 +36 @@
-<s_inf>usu. as サクラ; also written as 偽客</s_inf>
+<s_inf>usu. サクラ; also written as 偽客</s_inf>

@@ -36 +36 @@
-<s_inf>also written as 偽客</s_inf>
+<s_inf>usu. as サクラ; also written as 偽客</s_inf>

@@ -36 +36 @@
-<s_inf>also as 偽客</s_inf>
+<s_inf>also written as 偽客</s_inf>

from note

@@ -11,0 +12,4 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>偽客</keb>

meikyo, koj, daij, etc.

@@ -5,1 +5,1 @@
-<keb>上下</keb>
+<keb>裃</keb>
@@ -8,1 +8,1 @@
-<keb>裃</keb>
+<keb>上下</keb>
@@ -19,0 +19,1 @@
+<stagk>上下</stagk>
@@ -20,5 +21,6 @@
-<gloss>government and the people</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<gloss>upper and the lower parts of the body</gloss>
+<s_inf>orig. meaning</s_inf>
+<gloss>top and bottom</gloss>
+<gloss>up and down</gloss>
+<gloss>high and low</gloss>
+<gloss>above and below</gloss>
+<gloss>upper and lower ends</gloss>

See comments on 1352700.

koj, daij, meikyo

@@ -10,0 +10,3 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>じょうか</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -13,0 +16,2 @@
+<gloss>top and bottom</gloss>
+<gloss>up and down</gloss>
@@ -14,0 +19,8 @@
+<gloss>above and below</gloss>
+<gloss>upper and lower ends</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<stagr>しょうか</stagr>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>upper and lower classes</gloss>
+<gloss>ruler and ruled</gloss>
@@ -15,1 +28,0 @@
-<gloss>going up and down</gloss>

Meikyo vt and vi additions to n,vs entries
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-

@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos>

daij, gg5

@@ -13,2 +13,2 @@
-<gloss>contribution</gloss>
-<gloss>donation (to a temple, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>contribution (to a temple, shrine, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>donation</gloss>

http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/srch/all/寄進/m1u/

@@ -14,1 +14,1 @@
-<gloss>donation</gloss>
+<gloss>donation (to a temple, etc.)</gloss>

@@ -16,0 +17 @@
+<field>&food;</field>

* https://www.tasteatlas.com/basashi
* https://www.halfwayanywhere.com/asia/japan/basashi-eating-raw-horse-meat/
* https://www.atlasobscura.com/foods/basashi-horse-meat

@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+<gloss>basashi</gloss>

Link to general meat term

@@ -16,0 +16,2 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1298490">桜肉</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1298490">桜肉</xref>

G n-grams
ちゃぶ台	243894
卓袱台	 20971
チャブ台	  2321

reordering

@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>卓袱台</keb>
+<keb>ちゃぶ台</keb>
@@ -8 +8 @@
-<keb>ちゃぶ台</keb>
+<keb>卓袱台</keb>
@@ -14,0 +15 @@
+<re_restr>ちゃぶ台</re_restr>
@@ -16 +16,0 @@
-<re_restr>ちゃぶ台</re_restr>

@@ -25,1 +25,2 @@
-<gloss>low dining (tea) table</gloss>
+<gloss>low dining table</gloss>
+<gloss>tea table</gloss>

Link to 食卓, closely related word/concept.

@@ -24,0 +24,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1358530">食卓</xref>

googits

@@ -10,0 +11 @@
+<pos>&n;</pos>
@@ -11,0 +13 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2360470">自己解凍</xref>
@@ -13 +15 @@
-<gloss>self-extracting (computer file)</gloss>
+<gloss>self-extracting (file)</gloss>

Synonym

@@ -12,0 +12,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2360470">自己解凍</xref>

N-grams: 60, Googits 30

I think the old computer glossary that came from was using "decade" in a very abstract way. I think it can be dropped.

Any source for this meaning? All the results I get on 
Google are of the "10 in one package" variety.

we have:
一組 【ひとくみ; いちくみ】 (n) one class; one set

ひとくみ seems the better reading to me.  but i have no references for either in this context.

@@ -11,1 +11,4 @@
-<reb>じっこいちくみじっこひとくみ</reb>
+<reb>じっこひとくみ</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>じっこいちくみ</reb>

Merged

Entry created

Fixing reading.

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>十進二進変換</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>じゅうしんにしんへんかん</reb>
+<reb>じっしんにしんへんかん</reb>

Entry created

Fixing reading

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>十進演算</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>じゅうしんえんざん</reb>
+<reb>じっしんえんざん</reb>

Entry created

Fixing reading.

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>十進演算子</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>じゅうしんえんざんし</reb>
+<reb>じっしんえんざんし</reb>

Entry created

Fixing reading

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>十進基数</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>じゅうしんきすう</reb>
+<reb>じっしんきすう</reb>

Entry created

Fixing reading

@@ -11,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>じゅうしんしょうすう</reb>
+<reb>じっしんしょうすう</reb>

Entry created

Fixing reading

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>十進小数点</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>じゅうしんしょうすうてん</reb>
+<reb>じっしんしょうすうてん</reb>

Entry created

Fixing reading

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>十進数</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>じゅうしんすう</reb>
+<reb>じっしんすう</reb>

Entry created

Merged with 1334830.

Entry created

Fixing reading

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>二進化十進コード</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>にしんかじゅうしんコード</reb>
+<reb>にしんかじっしんコード</reb>

Entry created

Fixing reading.

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>二進化十進数</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>にしんかじゅうしんすう</reb>
+<reb>にしんかじっしんすう</reb>

Entry created

My 9yo typo.

I believe there was an extra 進 in the kanji element.

@@ -8 +8 @@
-<keb>二進化十進進表示法</keb>
+<keb>二進化十進表示法</keb>

Fixing reading.

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>二進化十進進表示法</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>にしんかじゅうしんひょうじほう</reb>
+<reb>にしんかじっしんひょうじほう</reb>

Entry created

Fixing reading

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>二進化十進法</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>にしんかじゅうしんほう</reb>
+<reb>にしんかじっしんほう</reb>

Entry created

0 n-grams, not in references, virtually no WWW hits.

Fixing reading.

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>アンパック十進表記法</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>アンパックじゅうしんひょうきほう</reb>
+<reb>アンパックじっしんひょうきほう</reb>

Entry created

Fixing reading

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>パック１十進表記法</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>パックじゅうしんひょうきほう</reb>
+<reb>パックじっしんひょうきほう</reb>

Entry created

@@ -14,2 +14 @@
-<gloss>self extract</gloss>
-<gloss>self-extracting</gloss>
+<gloss>self-extracting (file)</gloss>

http://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=自己解凍

@@ -14,0 +15 @@
+<gloss>self-extracting</gloss>

Synonym

@@ -13,0 +13,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1983370">自動解凍</xref>

Entry created

Fixing reading

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>実十進小数点</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>じつじゅうしんしょうすうてん</reb>
+<reb>じつじっしんしょうすうてん</reb>

Entry created

typo

@@ -11,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>ふごうかじじっしん</reb>
+<reb>ふごうかじっしん</reb>

Fixing reading.

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>符号化十進</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>ふごうかじゅうしん</reb>
+<reb>ふごうかじじっしん</reb>

Entry created

Fixing reading

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>符号化十進法</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>ふごうかじゅうしんほう</reb>
+<reb>ふごうかじっしんほう</reb>

Entry created

一個当り	810
一個あたり	8739
一個当たり	6812

Indeed.

@@ -4,6 +3,0 @@
-<k_ele>
-<keb>一個当り</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>１個当り</keb>
-</k_ele>
@@ -21,0 +16,6 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>一個当り</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>１個当り</keb>
+</k_ele>

当たり usually has two okurigana

@@ -15,0 +16,6 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>一個当たり</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>１個当たり</keb>
+</k_ele>

@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>一個当り</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8 +11 @@
-<keb>一個当り</keb>
+<keb>一個あたり</keb>
@@ -12,3 +14,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>一個あたり</keb>

This probably shouldn't be marked as a counter (個当り on its own is a counter).

@@ -21 +20,0 @@
-<pos>&ctr;</pos>

http://www.city.kawasaki.jp/280/page/0000005810.html

Not in references, but a few sites are using it. I'm calling it as "ik".

@@ -8 +8,5 @@
-<reb>たいりょうばた,たいりょうき</reb>
+<reb>たいりょうばた</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>たいりょうき</reb>
+<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>

@@ -8 +8 @@
-<reb>たいりょうばた</reb>
+<reb>たいりょうばた,たいりょうき</reb>

GG5, 新和英中辞典, etc.

I think it can go. Rene had doubts back in 2011, and I should have paid more attention then.

I can't find an instance of this that isn't preceded by a number (and it's almost always 2).
Someone submitted 二間続き as an entry, which I approved, and now I'm wondering if this entry is really needed.

OK, let's run with that.

nikk

without any references supplied for this meaning, i'm still entirely unconvinced that it's a correct parsing.  the first few pages of google hits as well as nikkoku give this meaning

@@ -11,2 +11,4 @@
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
-<gloss>continuing period</gloss>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
+<gloss>adjoining</gloss>
+<gloss>adjoining rooms</gloss>

See below.

I read this in a Japan Society handout; but that does not mean accuracy of usage.

As to the Google references, there were many examples of the form which I gave. I could copy a selection if you would wish.

I wondered if the reading [also picked up on the Google search] is the clue to usage. If the "間" were to be read as a stand alone contribution to the sentence, then in that case would the "ま" be the appropriate usage?

Pretty clear from WWW pages. The only other uses of 数育 are when the 数 is a suffix.

@@ -11,2 +11,4 @@
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
-<gloss>education provision</gloss>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="2626400">数学教育</xref>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
+<gloss>mathematics education</gloss>

Most of the WWW hits seem to be abbreviations of 数学教育 (mathematics education). 数学教育 might be a bit too obvious to be an entry, but we could add it then point 数育 to it as an "abbr".

See below.

I am not sure about this one, but it was in a Japan Society official handout in both Japanese and English under the title of "Managing public debt and social challenges". It was part of the Daiwa Foundation Lectures.

When I have searched, it seems to part of varying combinations, but it may be an official shorthand expression. It may also be a typo!

@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11,0 +13 @@
+<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>

See http://www.edrdg.org/jmdictdb/cgi-bin/entr.py?svc=jmdict&sid=&e=1905309 (人材)

This is one of two compounds involving 人材 where the perhaps best known compound has 6 characters. But in case you think there are any other long compounds that deserve an entry, here are a few that i picked from only 6 pages of Google hits for 人材紹介 (looked up explicitly without 会社, that is using a minus sign): 人材紹介事業(部/協会), 人材紹介機関, 人材紹介所, 人材紹介センター, 人材紹介サービス, 人材紹介ビジネス, 人材紹介リスト, 人材紹介バンク, 人材紹介サイト.

@@ -6,0 +7,6 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>人財紹介会社</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>人才紹介会社</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8 +14 @@
-<reb>じんざいしょうかいかいしゃ</reb>
+<reb>じんざいしょうかいがいしゃ</reb>

Eijiro, Honyaku list

4M+ googits, not in dictionaries.

Eijiro, many WWW pages.

Putting it in to have a target for 数育.

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<misc>&hist;</misc>

@@ -12 +12 @@
-<gloss>Naval Battle off Malaya (Dec. 10, 1941)</gloss>
+<gloss>Naval Battle off Malaya (December 10, 1941)</gloss>

@@ -5,1 +5,1 @@
-<keb>マレ沖海戦</keb>
+<keb>マレー沖海戦</keb>
@@ -8,1 +8,1 @@
-<reb>マレおきかいせん</reb>
+<reb>マレーおきかいせん</reb>

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<misc>&hist;</misc>

gg5

@@ -13,0 +13,1 @@
+<gloss>Cabinet Information Board</gloss>

Wiki

koj

Eij

daijs

It's a little odd.

Unless there is something special about 個 that I am unaware of, we could make entries like this for a whole bunch of counters.  For reasons given on previous edit, I think we're better off without this.

Per sheet:
一枚あたり	33167
枚あたり	146393 (includes all potential numbers of sheets, 1, 2 3, 一、二、三)

一個あたり	8739	6.9%
個あたり	117509	93.1%

In 2011, on the xref 2426510, Jim remarked: "個当り needs to be in its own entry (if there at all.)"

This seems like an odd entry. Surely the morphological parse of  1個あたり　is [1個]あたり, not 1[個あたり].  I think that alone is a strong case to just delete this.

I got to here from 坪当たり. In the that case, it is unambiguous because no one counts prices in units of "two tsubos". Quite a special case. I don't *think* this is an [abbr] of 1個当り.

see 度目 for this "N variable" trick, although I think we usually prefer "..." these days. I think this will probably get deleted in any case.

@@ -10,0 +11 @@
+<pos>&exp;</pos>
@@ -12,5 +13,5 @@
-<pos>&ctr;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="2426510">１個当り・いっこあたり</xref>
-<s_inf>usu. １個当り, ２個当り, etc.</s_inf>
-<gloss>pieces</gloss>
-<gloss>items</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1264740">個・こ・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1448780">当たり・9</xref>
+<s_inf>after a number N</s_inf>
+<gloss>per N pieces</gloss>
+<gloss>per N items</gloss>

Splitting 2426510.